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I would suggest this needs to be looked at on purely medical grounds. i find it unacceptable for someone to say - god told me to do this or - god told my great grandparents to do this and it's now a tradition. - Winckel

And just in the past days, the American Academy of Pediatrics has recommended circumcision for medical reasons. But to close your eyes to the impact the German court decision has on Jews and Muslims in the country (and merely say "the independent court decided so") is to ignore the situation 70 years ago, as well as freedom of religion as a whole. No other country in the world has taken this drastic step. It should be left to the parents to decide, no government intervention is needed. - Nils Sandin

yes, I saw the AAP report; I don't quite see how freedom of religion would allow parents to abuse kids though, so if this constituted abuse - and courts and government would need to consider that - then it seems to me it falls well within the remit of a consitutional democratically elected government. I have the sense that freedom of religion is used to cover all manner of ills. I think one of the issues with "ritual" circumstance is that there is often a lack of anesthetic - that seems odd and wrong and surely a matter for genuine doctors to opine on rather than religious zealots. - Winckel

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The Circassians were forced to resettle after the tsarist conquest of their territory. Their homeland rested in the northwestern Caucasus and on the northeastern shore of the Black Sea--along the southern border of the Russian empire. Before the Russian invasion, Circassia possessed two million people and an area of 55,663 square kilometers. They fought against Russian invasions from 1763-1864 and ultimately were defeated, with many Circassians being deported to Turkey. - etesien

The decision to deport the Circassians came in 1860; the Russians invaded from the north, accompanied by mobile columns of riflemen and Cossack cavalry; four thousand Circassian families left for Turkey. In 1862, Russian soldiers burned Circassian villages and trampled the crops; those who fled died in the forests and mountains of hunger and exposure. The Russian General Babich took his soldiers south, burning Circassian villages along the way. - etesien

In May 1864, the remaining Circassians bonded together in a frenzied battle and emerged triumphant over the Russian invaders; the victory, however, proved to be short-lived because the Russians returned with more artillery and soundly defeated the Circassian men and women; dissatisfied by only killing the Circassian adults, the triumphant Russian soldiers sought out the children and shot cannon shells at them. - etesien

never seen this photo before... thanks ! Retouched it here: http://ff.im/WOnf9 - Adriano

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