Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PST participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
Laura Norvig,
Nir Ben Yona,
Robert Scoble,
Karoli,
John Taschek,
digital ideaz,
#Robert Redl,
Ankush Narula,
clive boulton,
and
Dale Lature
liked this
at last, a Friday where I'm not swamped in the afternoon.
- Karoli
Yeehaaawww. What a week!
- Robert Scoble
Waiting for the famous Skype call.
- Robert Scoble
listening in
- Christian Burns
who's on today?
- Dale Lature
aside from Robert and Steve?
- Dale Lature
Scoble, Pocket Cast app had the gillmor feed and downloads the video to my android,
- Christian Burns
geez, Robert. Caught whiffs of the "Scoble turned down 500k" story...you do have your fans and your detractors, don't you? :)
- Karoli
Have yet to play it on the phone yet
- Christian Burns
standby... running a few minutes behind. line up Gang!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Karoli: yeah, I sure do, don't I? In the past week I pissed off some rich and famous people. As it should be. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Slide apps killed, overlaps G+, Max Levchin to exit (more streamlining)
- clive boulton
Kevin...r u in the house?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I don't see anything
- Francine Hardaway
Figure you're doing it right if you get those types aggravated.:)
- Karoli
assembling the Gang... almost locked in
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Count me as a friend, Robert. In fact, count everybody here as my friend.
- Francine Hardaway
no Kevin Marks?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Cool, we're almost there.
- Robert Scoble
Hi Tina, Gang, and Gangsters.
- Denise Howell
Ah. I saw a lower third come up:-) That's promising
- Francine Hardaway
My two officemates made me turn Fletch back on until you all get your tech together :)
- coldbrew
I'm here at Singularity U
- Kevin Marks
Yay!!!!
- Francine Hardaway
Great to have Searls participate. [Fletch is on pause :)]
- coldbrew
Hi Dave Winer
- Christian Burns
Hello everyone!
- Nir Ben Yona
Hi Dave!
- Francine Hardaway
Exactly, Doc. It's his life. I am sad because I suspect he's dying or he wouldn't have stepped down
- Francine Hardaway
those pictures on tmz are heartbreaking
- Jamie
Give the guy some peace. Just leave him alone.
- coldbrew
exactly right. The wording of that announcement was ominous.
- Karoli
I just looked at the picture on TMZ.
- Francine Hardaway
Correct, Robert.
- Francine Hardaway
You need to reexamine your principles if you ever let you browser go to TMZ.
- coldbrew
That is appalling.
- coldbrew
It's appalling that they put those up
- Francine Hardaway
yeah
- Jamie
tmz is a click-whore operation. they're going to make money off train-wreck viewers.
- Karoli
I'm more interested in the new apple campus they are building.
- coldbrew
Apple Campus?
- Colleen
the Apple UFO building
- Kevin Marks
Yes, Jobs recently presented a plan to the Cupertino City Council about the Apple campus. Search yourtube.
- coldbrew
Steve is right the commencement speech was 2005
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Oh, right...I've already forgotten.
- Colleen
he hasn't been the pitchman for over a year anyway.
- Karoli
Karoli: he was at the iPad 2 launch.
- Robert Scoble
ok. hold on...Here you go: youtube.com/watch?v=gtuz5OmOh_M
- coldbrew
the best site to read on Apple history is http://folklore.org
- Kevin Marks
hard to better Steve's Stanford speech
- clive boulton
Steve's 2005 beat Oprah's 2007
- clive boulton
Kevin: good site - great book
- Ankush Narula
Oh, so right DOC!!!!!!!
- Francine Hardaway
what Jobs is great at is making the mundane into magic.
- Karoli
Hardaway: 6 exclamation points?
- coldbrew
Why did he get so dang sick in the first place? He's too young. However, people do retire as they approach 60. Could he just be ready to work on the UFO?
- Colleen
@coldbrew I am given to bouts of wild enthusiasm
- Francine Hardaway
Apple Removes 99-Cent TV Show Rentals from iTunes Store and Apple TV - http://bit.ly/oA8gzI
- Ankush Narula
Colleen: shit happens to people. Not everyone lives to 80s. Another friend's wife died two weeks ago. She was 29.
- Robert Scoble
Hardaway: :)
- coldbrew
oops... i landed in the shot.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@coldbrew Francine sometimes takes cues from her dog Buppy, who wags his tail with seven exclamation points.
- Karoli
Steve Jobs has most probably created the blueprint for the iPad 10. All Apple has to do in the future, is make it!
- Moe Glitz
HDDs are on their way out for most of us. STX needs to get some SSD tech. Does anyone know if they have that?
- coldbrew
Damn, now I have to get used to Twitter as a TV network. I just got used to ShowMe App
- Francine Hardaway
2007
- Jamie
Doc and his dates today :)
- Jamie
STX has a SSD hybrid laptop drive called Momentus XT
- Ankush Narula
MU, SNDK?
- coldbrew
If you order business class Dell or HP, they are just as good.
- coldbrew
Apple make great Hardware and Software. No one else comes even close
- Moe Glitz
they still run windows, coldbrew
- Kevin Marks
:-) You can make them run whatever you want, depending on what you know.
- coldbrew
"People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware." -Alan Kay (we can add services to that)
- Ankush Narula
Google and Microsoft only do Software
- Moe Glitz
Kevin we seem to have an audio problem with you. any changes to yur system or setup?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
what about gaming field?
- Contz
bringing you back in
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hard to find Product Guy CEOs who obsess product operating at scale (Jobs, Gates / Maritz)
- clive boulton
i switched to new skype
- Kevin Marks
it is gapping fro me
- Kevin Marks
shoudl I go back to old skype
- Kevin Marks
send video kavin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm still one of the crazies thinking that personal servers will rule the roust once everyone understands decentralization and simple server management.
- coldbrew
Like Apple being kind of "too big to fail" - the currency of IT universe?
- #Robert Redl
We can still use load balancers on AWS but our app servers will be on-premise.
- coldbrew
That perception of perfection is what people called Jobs' "reality distortion field," which is an amazing part of his legacy for Apple's brand.
- Tom Guarriello
...and he's been aroound long enoughto set the bar very high
- Tina Chase Gillmor
"Great directors are the ones who don't have to say anything -- you know what I am saying?"
- Joe
coldbrew, agreed once tacit knowledge becomes the new IP
- clive boulton
That quote was used to calm down shareholders
- Moe Glitz
Let's parrot out of context quotations...
- coldbrew
"When it's ready" is the Apple mantra
- Kevin Marks
Apple will go into printers. http://tinyurl.com/3pmksbm
- Joe
Steve presents Cupertino Council http://youtu.be/gtuz5Om...
- clive boulton
Sometimes I'm scared for Scoble for saying the things he does, but what he says is quite interesting.
- coldbrew
The rationale is psychological..."we have to be in the tablet business...it's growing too fast for us to miss out..." Not sound, but understandable.
- Tom Guarriello
OS protection....The more people use IOS devices, the more irrelevant the others become.
- Karoli
anyone remember the HP iPod?
- Kevin Marks
fast following is easier
- clive boulton
yeah the blue ipod
- Ankush Narula
the jailbrake community is quite strong.
- coldbrew
Cliveb: exactly.
- Robert Scoble
"It takes more time to make a fake" but they are all rushing these products
- Mark Vaske
Steve Ballmer told everyone that a HP Windows Slate would be out soon. That quote came 3 weeks before Steve Jobs showed the iPad.
- Moe Glitz
HP had a bigger vision than copying the iPad - webOS was meant to be used across many products and form factors
- Ankush Narula
The iphone was definitely a life saver during my last European trip. Great GPS, awesome camera, amazing communication with friends from all over the world and the Time Out app was brilliant.
- Nir Ben Yona
It hasn't happened because the Android OS doesn't seem to perform consistently across devices
- Ankush Narula
idk about that, apple has the most developers, and they control and make the best hardware...
- Mark Vaske
capacitive touch changed lots of things
- coldbrew
kevin yr audio keeps building up as you are silent can u switch toheadphone?
- Steve Gillmor
multitouch too
- Kevin Marks
I am on headphone. Does this build of skype do AGC?
- Kevin Marks
maybe
- Steve Gillmor
should I switch back to the old skype?
- Kevin Marks
turn off autogain?
- Steve Gillmor
how?
- Kevin Marks
we'll live with it
- Steve Gillmor
Reminds me of the original PalmOS
- Ankush Narula
Ballmer would kick you out and play Queens we are the Champions, or smash a chair if really pissed
- clive boulton
App Switching != Multitasking
- Ankush Narula
iOS has very broken multitasking
- Kevin Marks
the onion article is a brilliant poke at hp.
- Mark Vaske
Kevin: I disagree that it's broken - it's "managed multitasking"
- Ankush Narula
nice analogy kevin!
- Mark Vaske
very nice analogy
- Tom Guarriello
The ADHD in me appreciates being forced to stop multitasking.
- Karoli
Kevin's right optimization (Elephants over Bacteria)
- clive boulton
with lion, one of the main features is to reduce multitasking with fullscreen mode.
- Mark Vaske
the brain cannot multitask, exactly
- Tom Guarriello
well, that's why you turn off the radio when the driving gets too challenging
- Tom Guarriello
I dont want 8 apps dividing up my ipad screen
- Mark Vaske
very fast serial task switching
- Jerome Hughes
I can listen to this and do email at the same time... Multitasking?
- Joe
How can I get IOS5?
- Francine Hardaway
Joe - are you focused on both?
- Jerome Hughes
try multitasking - speak all right now at the same time
- #Robert Redl
Has Steve mentioned Dave Weiner yet?
- Moe Glitz
Francine - become a dev
- Jerome Hughes
Moe, we said hi to him at the beginning of the show.
- Robert Scoble
to a certain extent...
- Joe
@francine - you have to be in the dev program
- Mark Vaske
Zing! This is hilarious.
- coldbrew
Well, I''m not a dev today, but tomorrow, who knows?
- Francine Hardaway
I can produce the show, switch shots and chat at once! well.... sort of...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yes the brain can only do one thing at a time (generally) but the brain does it much faster than a computer. The computer has to be able to multitask in order to keep up with the brain
- Eric de Oude
@francine - I doubt steve g is doing much dev stuff either, but that doesnt mean you cant get in it. Its $100
- Mark Vaske
Multitasking over rated, talking on cell phones, watch drivers
- clive boulton
Where is the Android version of the ipod touch?
- coldbrew
Wish Apple would make better speakers for all of their products
- Moe Glitz
I have a feature phone with a low cost carrier, and a ipod touch for voip at home.
- coldbrew
@ Moe hardware speakers arent meant to be awesome...
- Mark Vaske
@Robert - Exactly. External audio is better audio
- Mark Vaske
@coldbrew you are not alone;-)
- clive boulton
$900 earbuds - absurd
- Ankush Narula
what's 900 bucks to a guy who turned down 500k?
- Karoli
ding!
- Ankush Narula
I had some UEs... Went back to Shure. Love Shure
- Eric de Oude
A paddleboard
- Kevin Marks
gaga, please, Noooooooooooooooo.
- Joe
Lady Gaga is over!
- Moe Glitz
here's a show for you Steve: http://huffduffer.com/kevinma...
- Kevin Marks
Those $900 ear-buds are more of a microspeaker.
- Nir Ben Yona
this is TV right?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
My kids: Who watches TV on a television? :)
- Karoli
cliveb: Who do you use for VOIP? I pay $18/ yr for the ph number, and ~$0.008/ min (and $0.03 in expensive places)?
- coldbrew
GoogleTV's a slow go, no fresh content, need real-time channels like the New Hour
- clive boulton
really good video from individuals is huge on youtube
- Kevin Marks
did you see the Portal mini-movie?
- Kevin Marks
Apple Closing NYC Retail Stores Ahead of Hurricane Irene - Mac Rumors http://bit.ly/r93aAJ
- Ankush Narula
will Apples privacy issues get better or worse?
- #Robert Redl
Whats next? It's a big black cube-shaped computer that the web was invented on. But that's not important right now.
- Kevin Marks
until news streams live (like Al Jazeera), I'll still have a television
- Karoli
This is my first full Gillmor Gang. Extremely interactive with a Friend Feed comments and video. A great example of how TV changing
- Eric de Oude
I get streaming MSNBC on JustinTV, Karoli
- Francine Hardaway
I went to my housmates side of the house the other night after I drank a 12-pack, then I kicked the TV of the counter. :-)
- coldbrew
Woops.
- coldbrew
weird, Francine...I've tried a couple of times and can't get it for any length of time
- Karoli
nice to bring GoogleTV and G+ together
- clive boulton
steve jobs took the mammal approach to hollywood too
- Kevin Marks
There are two sources. They don't stream LockUp
- Francine Hardaway
@robert - does twitter integration stretch farther into tv as it has on iOS and Mac?
- Mark Vaske
gah, gapping
- Kevin Marks
I don't see Apple doing a TV. I see them doing a box that is a lot better than the last box
- Eric de Oude
URL for the Portal Mini-movie? Went to ShowYou and found a zillion portal videos
- Francine Hardaway
Marks: Not sure what you mean by gapping, but stream was fluid here.
- coldbrew
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4drucg1A6Xk
- Kevin Marks
bingo, doc.
- Karoli
Software will change TV, just as it changed Telephony!
- Moe Glitz
thx
- Francine Hardaway
feck, I'm switching back to old skype, as I can only hear you now
- Kevin Marks
Doc is nailing it
- Ankush Narula
iPad TV is personal tv
- Mark Vaske
If only mythTV was easy to deal with (CLI mandatory).
- coldbrew
kevin is gone
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Doc always nails it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
called back, but now I can see and not hear. bugger
- Kevin Marks
Apple today removed tv rentals? Streaming?
- Mark Vaske
ok back
- Kevin Marks
send video Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sports, meh
- Kevin Marks
bueno
- Tina Chase Gillmor
though I suppose that works wiht twitter
- Kevin Marks
They need to do more with the Time Capsule. Probably hurt RAX, though.
- coldbrew
Most streamers are much better than the Apple TV. Check out the new Xtreamer Prodigy http://bit.ly/9DTN38
- Nir Ben Yona
"Disapora runs on Time Capsule" would be cool.
- coldbrew
PadFone
- Ankush Narula
Did Steve resign as pitchman for sure?
- Mark Vaske
It's the shiniest thing I've ever seen!!!!!!
- coldbrew
6x! just for Hardawy :-)
- coldbrew
they're all the same size in radians
- Kevin Marks
i've had several streaming devices but the Apple TV device is by far the one that works the best for me.
- Karoli
we will watch TV not with the people on the same couch, but via a "hangout"
- #Robert Redl
Did you see TIVO's earnings? I'll be brief_> awesome. They will be acquired
- coldbrew
Robert: exactly.
- Robert Scoble
coldbrew: nope. Got a URL?
- Robert Scoble
Ignore yesterday.
- Joe
Did you see AAPL today? http://www.google.com/finance...
- Ankush Narula
"ghosting" like they do on twitter
- #Robert Redl
Ignore will let you cull your incoming feed
- Christian Burns
Louis Gray might have been the one to push for the ignore.
- Joe
they've been testing the ignore button on people who have odd names like violet blue
- Kevin Marks
Is Microsoft sleeping whilst all this is going on!
- Moe Glitz
"Ignore" is the wrong terminology - they should have made it "Mute" or "Silence"
- Ankush Narula
Scoble: seekingalpha.com/transcripts/for/TIVO
- coldbrew
mute a post, ignore a person
- Christian Burns
you're great Steve
- Christian Burns
Googe's siphoning off Microsoft's best.
- clive boulton
Cheers!
- Nir Ben Yona
getting more playing the game instead of just watching it
- Jerome Hughes
this has been a really good show
- Dale Lature
Sorry I only caught the end of this, stuck in Honolulu airport. Mahalo, Aloha over and out :) Will have to watch the recording...sounds like it was great.
- Charlie Isaacs
excellent Gang. Glad I caught it live
- Tom Guarriello
Ankush: yeah, AAPL is cheap at 11 times earnings.
- Robert Scoble
I'm still vibrating (idea wise, and writing things down) as I listen to this
- Dale Lature
Great Gang guys, keep listening to the future.
- Denise Howell
Steve, JP will be on?
- clive boulton
Great show. so nice to be able to view it in real time. :)
- Karoli
Thanks! Cya all next time.
- Nir Ben Yona
Thanks! Informative, and thought provoking.
- Eric de Oude
Great show
- Francine Hardaway
the sing u stuff is great
- Kevin Marks
thanks everyone....you're all really great and I smiled a few times.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
First time sitting down to listen/watch this & really enjoyed it.
- Ian Murphy