Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PST participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
Oguz Serdar,
Stephen Pickering,
Tina Chase Gillmor,
John Taschek,
clive boulton,
and
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Can Steve & Tina give us Royal Wedding Gilmor Gang Kiss
- Moe Glitz
when are we starting?
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Windows Phone is tracking all three users! heheheheheheh
- Stephen Pickering
Almost all Smartphone Apps wants to track your current location
- Moe Glitz
'These aren't the Droids you are looking for'. Steve Jobs
- Moe Glitz
Has John got a cold? Are is he not paying his heating bills?
- Moe Glitz
is this live now? I got nothing
- dlature
Yes, I"m watching
- Stephen Pickering
Maybe refresh your page?
- Stephen Pickering
me too
- Moe Glitz
Thank you, Kevin. That's a much more accurate description.
- Darren
had to switch from Chrome to IE...refresing Chrome several times did nothing
- dlature
Hmmm, that's weird. I'm using Chrome, although I have had issues with Chrome on other sites and had to use Safari
- Stephen Pickering
FriendFeed feels neglected
- Paul E. Ester
It's true that you solve the failures you see
- Michael Krigsman
Sony Playstation network went down from what I understood
- Stephen Pickering
It is absolutely a big deal. The outage was multi-day for some customers.
- Darren
JP: I disagree that it was spun up as a large story. It affected so many people, which means it IS a big story.
- Michael Krigsman
I heard playstation network still down?
- Stephen Pickering
IT failures are almost always related to financial decisions or human judgment
- Michael Krigsman
anybody else getting this annoying "Conservative Talk Now" ad that won't "X" out?
- dlature
Was it worth Apple spending $5m to purchase icloud.com, if the Cloud seems to be unreliable
- Moe Glitz
think it just crashed my Chrome's flash again
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Nope
- Stephen Pickering
Is John in a freezer?
- Michael Krigsman
Is JP inside a coalmine?
- Moe Glitz
back again...had to sit thru that initial 30 sec ad again
- dlature
JP's in england, it's night there
- Kevin Marks
AMZ has tier support.
- Darren
Not tiered infrastructure.
- Darren
Smugmug CEO wrote a great piece on how he kept his service up
- Stephen Pickering
The cloud brings leverage, which is great when it works properly. However, when there is a problem it causes big problems fast.
- Michael Krigsman
smugmug, twilio, simplegeo all geeked out interestingly
- Kevin Marks
Netflix uses the same infrastructure as every other customer. They have a more redundant, resilient infrastructure implementation. Something any other customer could do, if they took the time and could afford it.
- Darren
Is cloud a technology or a way of life?
- Michael Krigsman
Last week I was in the Twilight Zone. Now I'm in a Freezer
- John Taschek
I'm in the garden of pollen
- Kevin Marks
I *think it's a virtualized technology of distributing data across many servers and data centers
- Stephen Pickering
Can't wait for next week then?
- Moe Glitz
does that make Steve the unfunny guy from salesforce
- Kevin Marks
As IT extends out into the consumer world, there is definitely the expectation that cloud will work all the time. Consumers expect cloud to function as reliably as the phone or electricity.
- Michael Krigsman
Bang goes Rackspaces sponsorship of Gillmor Gang
- Moe Glitz
Speaking of Salesforce, when will they be acquiring Seesmic?
- Darren
Congratulations Kevin and Salesforce
- Paul E. Ester
Congrats!
- Michael Krigsman
thanks guys
- Kevin Marks
Very good decision to hire Kevin. Congrats.
- Darren
I wasn't expecting to say this until monday.. thanks steve ;)
- Kevin Marks
The Salesforce Mafia!
- Moe Glitz
Bromance
- Stephen Pickering
thank you for coming out!
- Michael Krigsman
That sounds like a more successful version of Cliqset. ;)
- Darren
May The Salesforce Be With You, Kevin!
- Moe Glitz
Paypal Mafia! Goog Mafia! Zinga Mafia!
- clive boulton
Congrats @kevinmarks ! Great to have you.
- John Taschek
It's not in Apple's DNA to give away
- Stephen Pickering
It would be weird for Apple to do cloud and app hosting for others
- Michael Krigsman
How many people actually use FaceTime? Skype is one thing, but FaceTime?
- Michael Krigsman
Android has now got its own version of Facetime!
- Moe Glitz
Haz SFDC gathered brain power to overcome MSFT's "project green" cloud app customization IP suit...
- clive boulton
sadly, Apple's promised facetime open standards document never happened
- Kevin Marks
facetime is mostly used within households who have multiple iphones...
- Kevin Marks
so facetime is an eeensy little niche product?
- Michael Krigsman
Android was a development of the Sidekick vision
- Kevin Marks
like Steve' / Tina's new studio
- clive boulton
guess I missed the first few minutes from the new studio
- dlature
thanks. studio not finished but working
- Tina Chase Gillmor
But without Apple's Webkit, Android's UI would look static?
- Moe Glitz
Webkit was apple's key openness
- Kevin Marks
Bet they regret that move today, Kevin
- Moe Glitz
no, I don't think so. Without it they'd not have been able to get dev support for their browser
- Kevin Marks
Winsock.
- Darren
Exactly, the browser is what initially sold the thing
- Stephen Pickering
Didn't Google benefit from Apple's WebKit?
- Alex de Soto
But if they patented Webkit, they would have controlled the Smartphone Marketplace
- Moe Glitz
But then Google wouldn't have gotten on board and iPhone needs their services
- Stephen Pickering
no they wouldn't moe, they'd have prevented it from happening
- Kevin Marks
The iPod with Wifi was key I think.
- Alex de Soto
wifi in iPhone was important; Nokia wanted to put wifi in their phones for years, but carriers would not agree to it
- Kevin Marks
Apple plays a delicate balance between what consumers want and what the content establishment wants. To that extent they've done a brilliant job so far.
- Stephen Pickering
Right Stephen. Just look at Google TV.
- Alex de Soto
The biggest worry is that the Carriers will try to wrestle back control of the Smartphone Market from the Software Companies
- Moe Glitz
Alex, exactly
- Stephen Pickering
Moe: Easier to wrest control back with Android no?
- Alex de Soto
the carriers now need wifi support, because they don't have the capacity
- Kevin Marks
Android video calling rumors @ IO
- clive boulton
They can't Moe, they love these 100 dollar a month contracts too much
- Stephen Pickering
they're trying to come up with a paid wifi roaming spec
- Kevin Marks
plz work on paid wifi roaming
- clive boulton
Two tier Wifi coming very soon?
- Moe Glitz
Comcast Xfinity offers Wifi in select areas for their customers too.
- Alex de Soto
Android integration w/ Google Voice is great. I apply my free unlimited "friend" minutes on TMobile to GV. Beautiful stuff.
- Michael Krigsman
video calling in gtalk was announced this week clive
- Kevin Marks
disagree, clive, work on free roaming ie turning off the stupid middleboxes
- Kevin Marks
My one complaint about my iPhone is that it refuses to let go of my wifi network when I go on walks and am clearly out of range. I have to go into settings to get on to 3G and listen to Pandora
- Stephen Pickering
Huh?
- Michael Krigsman
Software Companies are killing Carriers MMS and SMS Cashcows
- Moe Glitz
looking for alternative to cell data plan (I only have a starbucks plan - need moar wifi)
- clive boulton
No, Steve, we know you aren't in an ivory tower.
- Michael Krigsman
http://www.dtc.umn.edu/~odlyzk... - how communications become flat rate
- Kevin Marks
There are two distinct threads happening now: early technology adoption in general, vs communications pricing.
- Michael Krigsman
in the 70s we used to pay a dollar a minute for long distance
- Stephen Pickering
Until the carrier imposes an unexpected cap -- for example, Comcast bandwidth limits or unplanned international cell phone roaming that leads to a $1000 bill when you go on vacation.
- Michael Krigsman
Just got home from work. First thing heard: JP saying "Flat rate wins," and not having context thought it was some variant of "Flattery will get you everywhere."
- Amyloo
kevin, thx for history comms "flatrat"
- clive boulton
Watching YouTube vids on 3G, completely wipes out your flat rate Data Plan.
- Moe Glitz
If 4G threatens Comcast, Comcast will lift the cap. Competition and innovation drives flat rate
- Stephen Pickering
Damn he's worse than Leo! hahaha
- Stephen Pickering
danny - how many data plans? (lost count...)
- clive boulton
IMO, the Atrix model is the future of computing. One brain, multiple input form factors.
- Darren
thats what Wifi delivers
- Kevin Marks
What??? Are you a communist???
- Michael Krigsman
If I were into politics and conspiracy theories (which I'm not), I would say you are on the dangerous path to state control over everything. Thin end of the wedge. /sarcasm off
- Michael Krigsman
OMG, Verizon being nice to consumers?? This is the dreams show.
- Michael Krigsman
we need more open spectrum like wifi - white spaces
- Kevin Marks
Does AT&T offer tethering yet for my iPhone?
- Stephen Pickering
Tethering on Android is wonderful, but I used to do it just as easily on jailbroken iPhone
- Michael Krigsman
If I jailbreak am I in danger of losing my grandfathered unlimited data plan from AT&T?
- Stephen Pickering
I use PDAnet on Android for tethering
- Kevin Marks
my Starbucks "data plan" $1200yr / $3 Americano = 400 coffee visits (cheap & cheerful & caffeinated)
- clive boulton
Stephen - you are in danger only because ATT is now detecting unsanctioned tehtering and forcing you to change plans. Did not used to be the case.
- Michael Krigsman
Hear, hear!
- Darren
Ahhh, ok, thanks Michael
- Stephen Pickering
Ok my late night royal wedding watching is starting to hit me.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
where the heck is my tiarra?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
640k, er 5GB ought to be enough for anyone
- Kevin Marks
Yes, exactly Kevin.
- Darren
Tina, you can borrow my everyday tiara.
- Amyloo
What are the implications of this for Salesforce?
- Michael Krigsman
watching royal wedding with twitter was fun
- Kevin Marks
then is there a way to download our gmail to our local machine?
- Stephen Pickering
Tina, can you give Steve a Gillmor Gang Royal Wedding Kiss!
- Moe Glitz
@Stephen, POP3.
- Darren
You can use Thunderbird to download a full copy to your local machine for backup.
- Michael Krigsman
IMAP doesn't download by default.
- Darren
Ah, ok, thank you
- Stephen Pickering
Since you need backup cloud and need to back up local, doesn't that mean cloud and local are the same?
- Michael Krigsman
IMAP syncs headers by default, not content.
- Darren
Gee, I thought Tech was suppose to make our lives easier?
- Moe Glitz
Moe....hmmm
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Moe: that belief is an illusion
- Michael Krigsman
I was at Buckingham Palace today
- Moe Glitz
Photosynth was amazing to use there!
- Moe Glitz
not been there for a long time...
- Kevin Marks
ATT v Verizon economics suk, Starbucks "data plan" (rest my case)
- clive boulton
My sister lives 10 mins away from there
- Moe Glitz
Moe, link to your Photosynths?
- Stephen Pickering
Moeglitz
- Moe Glitz
Still learning how to use it more effectively!
- Moe Glitz
what's the url to photosynth?
- Stephen Pickering
photosynth.com?
- Stephen Pickering