Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PST participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
Oguz Serdar,
Stephen Pickering,
Tina Chase Gillmor,
Robert Scoble,
Turkish Delight,
Chris Aldrich,
clive boulton,
Julie Parker,
Dale Lature,
and
Alex de Soto
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who's on today? I like to tweet notify people what's ahead
- Dale Lature
Me, Danny Sullivan, John Taschek, Steve Gillmor. Not sure if Kevin will be on.
- Robert Scoble
I am ready for the show. Sitting in my studio digitally remastering an old 1931 movie called The Champ and listening to GG.
- David Lloyd
My iPad 2 just arrived. Wooohhoooo! :-)
- Robert Scoble
It's 5% lighter and Angry Birds loads 50% FASTER!
- David Lloyd
r.e. twitter: yes unbox live pls, maybe in preshow if not allowed
- David Lloyd
Steve, I'm getting twitchy. I can't wait to unbox my iPad 2.
- Robert Scoble
oooh, an unboxing
- Dale Lature
I have a ton of videos to turn on after the show too. Starting to recover from SXSW.
- Robert Scoble
GarageBand on the iPad is the greatest app for hack musicians of all time.
- John Taschek
Still waiting for the famous call.
- Robert Scoble
speaking of which, has everyone turned on Gmail's new Smart Labels? That's the single most productive thing I've done this year.
- Robert Scoble
I'll be on, unless this rain takes out the power/net
- Kevin Marks
More about them here: http://lifehacker.com/#!57801...
- Robert Scoble
Just got the call, we'll be on air shortly.
- Robert Scoble
I don't know why but when I visit links to Gawker sites the actual page doesn't load, just some page full of related stories
- David Lloyd
thanks, Robert
- Jerome Hughes
that's the hashbang fail, David. See also: http://xkcd.com/869/
- Kevin Marks
Hi Steve, sorry I showed up
- Ross Mayfield
There was great shit at sxsw, like Ditto, but it got lost in the noise
- Ross Mayfield
Ross: I like the idea of Ditto more than I like the execution.
- Robert Scoble
version 1 dude
- Ross Mayfield
but yes, you see a lot of version 1s
- Ross Mayfield
I like ditto, except it's iPhone only, so not very usable
- Kevin Marks
Ross: I know, I will give Jyri feedback about what doesn't work for me.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin: very usable for me. :-)
- Robert Scoble
yeah, if you dont have an iphone its not very usable
- Ross Mayfield
The new Comdex
- Eric - Final Countdown
Windows PC's stopped crashing a long time ago
- David Lloyd
twitter and foursquare both bridged modalities, sms to web, mobile app to web. made it very viable to communicate with many people.
- Kevin Marks
I have an iPod touch, I can try it on wifi, but...
- Kevin Marks
Google Circles!
- David Lloyd
Pricing discrimination by device for the NYT
- David Lloyd
Is the NYT on the web still going to be free?
- Stephen Pickering
The NYT times should have picked a time where access to news didn't matter. Less interesting times.
- Ross Mayfield
this is a christian scientist plot
- Ross Mayfield
The thing is some of us follow hundreds of links a day, and if every news site starts charging... will be laying out hundreds of bucks a month :D
- David Lloyd
Winer will maybe start a feed river for us and we can click through for free hehe.
- David Lloyd
there's that name again, i do not know that it means what people think it means
- Ross Mayfield
So all I have to do if I am past my 20 article limit on NYT, is to TWEET the link to the 21st article and then follow it, and I'm in.
- Dale Lature
Yes Dale
- David Lloyd
NYT should create a digital version that has opinion and longer pieces. Forget keeping up with the news.
- Alex de Soto
so, um, are you arguing that paper is dead?
- Ross Mayfield
A firefox / google addon will probably come out which amends something to a url to make it trick it into appearing like a link has been clicked.
- David Lloyd
yes, Ross http://epeus.blogspot.com/2006...
- Kevin Marks
FT.com not convenient using links to avoid subscription (but doing it)
- clive boulton
so 2006
- Ross Mayfield
David, wasn't a question, but thanks for answering
- Dale Lature
I know it sounded like a qtn...dont want to come off smart aleck
- Dale Lature
What killed the NYT credibility is when they went into the tank for Bush's Iraq War. That was just unreal. Everyone in the entire world knew Sadam had no WMD's or had anything to do with it except the CIA and NYT.
- Stephen Pickering
National Edition of WSJ Circulation (print I assume): 1,678,498
- Alex de Soto
NYT Circulation: http://www.nytimes.whsites.net/mediaki...
- Alex de Soto
no Stephen, most people thought Saddam did have WMD, arguably including Saddam
- Kevin Marks
Is wired mag on ipad (fed up with paper)
- clive boulton
not having to think about it is the problem. news only with the ability to tweet and like is boring.
- Ross Mayfield
I tweet hundred year old articles out...
- Kevin Marks
i want an old ticker tape machine hooked up to twitter
- Ross Mayfield
Yeah Kevin but the NYT was reporting things as fact in that case that had no substantiation. Their reporter, Judith Miller I believe was almost just acting as a mouthpiece for the Admin
- Stephen Pickering
http://www.google.com/s2... is Google's social circles, shipped last year
- Kevin Marks
Google hired Ed Chi to inject social scents.
- clive boulton
iPad2 toting communists?
- Alex de Soto
my 8 year old only uses his ipad for games, thousands of free games
- Ross Mayfield
i seriously regret not getting him a hackable computer
- Ross Mayfield
Garageband and iMovie are what are going to sell a lot of iPad2s
- Stephen Pickering
Garageband iPad is freaking incredible. That's the direction of the future.
- Stephen Pickering
for a kid, the instant gratification of free crap in the itunes store is as much of a problem as the lack of creation tools
- Ross Mayfield
now click a link on the paper
- Ian McGee
The paradigm of the iPad is removing the intimidation and introducing fun and intimacy with computing and communications
- Stephen Pickering
iO Dock Pro Audio Dock For iPad is really cool If you're using GarageBand http://bit.ly/g4ooLl
- Nir Ben Yona
We need Andrew for this
- Dale Lature
Hah I just finished reading volume one of that book Kevin
- David Lloyd
Johns PC mag #2 looks like whole earth catalog
- clive boulton
Nir Ben can you connect an interface to that or something?
- Stephen Pickering
@Stephen Of course, that's the point :)
- Nir Ben Yona
Stephen: Totally agree about Garageband! Amazing technology.
- John Taschek
John, was it deboned?
- Jerome Hughes
see, sxsw is destroying the greatest minds of the tech industry
- Ross Mayfield
You should see it compared to my Computer Shopper, which is now too heavy to lift.
- John Taschek
Ross: at least for a week. :-)
- Robert Scoble
For print users like Danny: Check out this Tech Support video from the middle ages: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Alex de Soto
And good luck! hehehehehe
- Stephen Pickering
I got a bunch of those old computer mags which are 500 pages thick and 400 of those pages are ads for 16MB ram chips and pentium 333s!
- David Lloyd
Interesting from the same PC Mag cover: "IBM makes serious Music"
- John Taschek
Little known story - Computer Shopper had to up its editorial content frequently to avoid being labled as junk mail which would incur substantially more postal costs.
- John Taschek
is there an interesting AR app for the iPad 2 yet?
- Ross Mayfield
open the mag up John and let us know the speed of some of the CPUs for sale back then!
- David Lloyd
Krugman just wrote this: Yes. We encourage links from Facebook, Twitter, search engines, blogs and social media. When you visit NYTimes.com through a link from one of these channels, that article (or video, slide show, etc.) will count toward your monthly limit of 20 free articles, but you will still be able to view it even if you’ve already read your 20 free articles.
- Dale Lature
FT.com using same paywall link logic
- clive boulton
that makes sense, Dale. Stop the 'you evil buggers broke the web' reaction I have to WaPo or FT now
- Kevin Marks
Marketing and Promotions Director for Conde Nast says the Wired.com app will be replicated across the media network.
- Alex Williams
First ad in PC Mag: Microsoft announces BASIC "If flying your IBM PC got any more realistic, you'd need a license (also an ad for Flight Simulator)
- John Taschek
Online News Consumption, Revenue Overtake Print for the First Time http://www.pcmag.com/article...
- empiricator
You might pay for really good curation of the news.
- Alex de Soto
Online News Consumption, Revenue Overtake Print for the First Time http://www.pcmag.com/article... - You (edit | delete)
- empiricator
Supercalc has a spread ad.
- John Taschek
we'll be forced to subscribe to people
- Ross Mayfield
First ad for hardware: Cameo advertising backup for Zenith and Eagle computers.
- John Taschek
@alex thx Wired was my last mag subscription (apart from ACM.org)
- clive boulton
404 empiricator
- Kevin Marks
we already subscribe to people
- Tina Chase Gillmor
good article, empiricator: http://www.pcmag.com/article...
- Kevin Marks
@kevin thanks
- empiricator
and the ipad is a catalyst for legitimizing the web
- Stephen Pickering
Interruptive ads anywhere are in trouble unless they're damn good. Look at the backlash to Twitter's quick bar.
- Alex de Soto
I notice ads which catch my interest. I saw an ad for an Alfred Hitchcock boxed set and ended up laying down £30 for it. Rebecca (best film of all time) :D
- David Lloyd
Brits love adverts. hehehehehhe
- Stephen Pickering
kinect camera can track the eyes, then inject the ads where eyes are
- clive boulton
We don't love adverts but we love the fact that the BBC has no adverts so our drama last a full hour and not 44 minutes.
- David Lloyd
iPad and publishing: What about the rumored magazine standards that Apple could be working on?
- Alex de Soto
perhaps there would be a larger percentage coming from an app that are not quite motivated to get there via Safari ?
- Jerome Hughes
o_O Alex - the standard is HTML, like it is for Books
- Kevin Marks
or to make someone else the money tomorrow
- Jerome Hughes
Kevin: This is what I was referring to: http://www.fastcompany.com/1738528...
- Alex de Soto
Brit ads often have superbowl quality
- clive boulton
There's no question. The only drawback is that its killing my eyes
- Stephen Pickering
he said "killing" not "killed"
- David Lloyd
Zuck should put FF group chat in FB great #ux
- clive boulton
I just hope he doesn't turn FF off!
- Stephen Pickering
The iPad is rocking it in medicine. Physicians are really into them. 1 in 5 plan to buy one: http://www.epocrates.com/company...
- Alex de Soto
Flipscam! hehehehehhehehehe
- Stephen Pickering
try this website, Robert: http://www.nytimes.com/chrome
- Kevin Marks
WOW, thats a nice link Kevin
- David Lloyd
Love the NYT Chrome app. I guess they'll be charging for access to that too.
- Alex de Soto
i think iPad is indeed "the Web", but Web 4.0 or whatever number we're on is more invested inthe interface, like the Tablet (which now IS the iPad)
- Dale Lature
Never seen the Times like that before
- David Lloyd
I know the general philosophy, but where can a new father find an RSS feed of this show (audio or video) to catch up on the last month's episodes? The baby is lovely, but I'm having GG withdrawals...
- Chris Aldrich
how do Physicians sterilize iPad...
- clive boulton
The NPR Chome app is also a standout as is Sports Illustrated. I read them on my free CR-48 and I'm thrilled.
- Alex de Soto
Kevin: yes, and that's not nearly as nice as reading on a Tablet, er, an iPad.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin, and THAT isn't NEARLY as nice as Flipboard.
- Robert Scoble
Funny @cliveb. Autoclaves would not work. Glue would melt. ;)
- Alex de Soto
Kevin, because it only has one source.
- Robert Scoble
Echoing Chris -- audio podcast against would be nice as well. Some of us have more time to listen in cars.
- Ian McGee
on that NYT link with Top News is the answer to Sgteve's wondering about NYT journalists that were missing: "http://www.nytimes.com/2011..."
- Dale Lature
so, let flipboard make a web app
- Kevin Marks
Glenn Beck will go off on them if Scoble is right about him joining the Obama team
- David Lloyd
Yep, Robert, one source. The aggregate is the key
- Dale Lature
Glenn Beck already went off on Google
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: you miss the point. Touch is a HUGE part of why Flipboard is more enjoyable to use. Same with Feedly, coming soon to both Android tablets and iPads.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah, why can't I get Flipboard on my PC?
- David Lloyd
David: can you touch your PC?
- Robert Scoble
Isn't Glenn Beck going off on something how you know you're doing it right?
- Ian McGee
@Alex the Windows tablet is autoclave compatible! (nothing to melt)
- clive boulton
No but I can move my mouse curser instead of my finger
- David Lloyd
David: not the same.
- Robert Scoble
I can touch my Air, great trackpad gestures
- Kevin Marks
David: the iPad is superior for reading.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin: not the screen.
- Robert Scoble
and I don't need to lift my knees up to balance it either
- Kevin Marks
I love the views of Steve's studio.
- Alex Williams
Surely a PC is the best way to read the news while you are at home. (or Mac)
- David Lloyd
Why would anyone read the news on their pad while sitting in their office ?
- David Lloyd
David: I disagree. The iPad is in the midst of a revolution in how we'll read news. More when Feedly ships at end of month.
- Robert Scoble
well, David, lots of people are reading on iPads, with things like instapaper
- Kevin Marks
David - because they'd like to sit back and manipulate items directly
- Jerome Hughes
I read a lot on my android phone around the house and on the move
- Kevin Marks
And I should say "Tablets" not just iPads, since Feedly will work on Android too.
- Robert Scoble
David - totally disagree. I can curl up with my iPad
- Tina Chase Gillmor
And it's not the only tablet-based app that's totally changing how I read news.
- Robert Scoble
PC not a lean back experience
- clive boulton
The PC isn't going away, but it sucks for reading on the couch.
- Robert Scoble
Or in bed.
- Robert Scoble
I want a backlit Kindle, its just about the best reading device for me when relaxing
- David Lloyd
another 2006 post of mine: http://epeus.blogspot.com/2006...
- Kevin Marks
We are in the middle of a real revolution. One which will be more apparent over next month or two. (I've seen a few apps coming that are mind blowing and NOT on PCs).
- Robert Scoble
I always thought when the web started up that like "oh hey now the NYT can have its own TV station"
- Stephen Pickering
David: that's impossible. Kindle uses eInk screens which REQUIRE front facing light.
- Robert Scoble
air is good on the couch; android is good standing up
- Kevin Marks
David: just get Kindle on an iPad. Use it in bed. Kindle everywhere else.
- Robert Scoble
They are awesome. I just love holding them!
- Stephen Pickering
It might be impossible now, but who knows what the next version of eInk will be capable of in a couple of years
- David Lloyd
I would use the ipad for reading books but its too damn heavy
- David Lloyd
Kindle on the phone too
- Kevin Marks
I wish it weighed 150 grams less and had half the battery ;p
- David Lloyd
The nice part of standalone kindle is that there isn't anything else there, so one is forced to focus on the content more concertedly.
- Chris Aldrich
That's right David, that's the only drawback to me, all day on computer and iPad, my vision is going rapidly
- Stephen Pickering
When the funnies get a great app, newsprint will be in real trouble.
- Alex de Soto
iPod Touch is a nice device too
- Kevin Marks
I just finished reading a hardcover Folio edition of the decline and fall of the Roman empire, it weighs 75% less than an Ipad and I thought that was too heavy to comfortably read for a long period :D
- David Lloyd
I tell you, watching TV through Slingbox on iPad is killer
- Stephen Pickering
I have the Everyman one, but I do buy Folio too
- Kevin Marks
Stephen: exactly.
- Robert Scoble
Cost a couple of pounds from one of those dusty second hand book shops you find in backstreets of England
- David Lloyd
Call me old-fashioned, but I find it a bit scary to hold an iPad (a device that undoubtedly radiates) and read for hours.
- Nir Ben Yona
iPhone went into established market, iPad established a new market
- Jerome Hughes
Nir, do you have a phone in your pocket with 7 radios in
- Kevin Marks
I try to put my iphone as far as possible from my pocket. Most of the time in my bag. It scares me.
- Nir Ben Yona
Stop all talking at once please
- David Lloyd
When I bought my Verizon iPhone, a clerk said that maybe ATT would get better after everybody switched away
- Ross Mayfield
geez the overtalking is incredible today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina: too much coffee.
- Robert Scoble
You cannot watch Al jazeera Live on the ipad :(
- David Lloyd
$140 android tablet at QVC http://www.qvc.com/qic...
- Kevin Marks
The only thing that could possibly hurt the iPad is if they somehow start to restrict content, ie if they run Amazon off the platform
- Stephen Pickering
iPad is still missing a solid cloud solution like the cr-48 has. Syncing with a cable is so old.
- Alex de Soto
Because you don't like itunes.
- Todd Hoff
I bet that $140 tablet will sell for £299 over here heh.
- David Lloyd
I bought the nexus on for T-Mobile, still love the phone.
- Michael Breslin
Alex totally agree.
- Stephen Pickering
You buy this "Post PC Ipad" and you need a computer to use it :)
- David Lloyd
"post PC but Pc needed to use" Ipad
- David Lloyd
It's not just not liking iTunes, its that I've got two macs and I wish I could buy content on whichever one I'm on, but I can't if I want it to sync
- Stephen Pickering
David: good point, but you don't need one. Just go into Apple store and they will set it up for you. But how many people don't have a PC/Mac that are gonna buy a Tablet?
- Robert Scoble
But I agree, that's one of the cool features of my Xoom.
- Robert Scoble
Cellphones were around for a long time too. Then came the iPhone.
- Alex de Soto
I was just pointing out it's a bit egregious to describe the ipad as a post-pc device
- David Lloyd
It would be like describing a hybrid car as post-petrolium, when you need to put oil in it still
- David Lloyd
What about IBM Steve?
- Chris Aldrich
I love this show, feels like a secret hidden show only a few people know about
- David Lloyd
It's because Steve killed it's RSS feed David.
- Chris Aldrich
Well Office IS DEAD despite the last version breaking all sales records for the series :D
- David Lloyd
David: momentum is hard to kill. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Wonder if share of non-Apple mp3 players is one predictor of non-ipad tablets?
- Amyloo
still waiting for the iPad tohave video creation tools and a decent video camera
- Dale Lature
For our sake I hope Apple doesn't end up with 95% tablet market share
- David Lloyd
ala ipod vs mp3 players
- David Lloyd
they shipped that, dale
- Kevin Marks
lot of mp3-playing phones
- Kevin Marks
shipped what?...iPad2 camera sucks for video...now they're saying iPad 3 in Nov will have it
- Dale Lature
David: I predict 90% this year. 75% next.
- Robert Scoble
Of course somewhere in the world maybe a super hot tablet is being developed right now...
- David Lloyd
My wife is perfectly happy with reading Mags on her cheap color Nook. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
- Alex de Soto
the ipad is destroying the web
- Ross Mayfield
How do you itterate a tablet every year and not run out of ways to make it feel new?
- David Lloyd
I mean, its a chunk of glass
- David Lloyd
Ross: the Web will come back. :-) Although it might look like an app. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
If someone out there would actually care about building beautiful products as much as Apple does, then maybe someone else could get some traction
- Stephen Pickering
should have talked about how apple is deprecating web apps on the iphone and ipad
- Ross Mayfield
David Lloyd, after a certain point it may be the software that carries the iteration burden, if you look at PCs.
- Amyloo
not deprecating web apps, just speeded up the browser more than fullscreen apps
- Kevin Marks
Stephen: the problem is it costs money to build beautiful products.
- Robert Scoble
longer story, another time
- Ross Mayfield
Microsoft should build Office apps for iOS and Android.
- Alex de Soto
url, ross?
- Kevin Marks
Go CDMA!! and QCOM! hehehhe
- Stephen Pickering
will DM
- Ross Mayfield
Thanks everyone for joining us.
- Robert Scoble
Ballmer will keep hope alive or begone
- clive boulton
sorry i showed up Steve, thanks all
- Ross Mayfield
excellent , guys. Thanks
- Dale Lature
Until next time.
- Nir Ben Yona