GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
Francine Hardaway,
Nir Ben Yona,
Stephen Pickering,
John Taschek,
Tina Chase Gillmor,
Robert Scoble,
Teri Temme,
Jerome Hughes,
clive boulton,
crackedsoftware,
and
Dale Lature
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I'm waiting for the famous call? I wonder what we'll talk about today? Facebook IPO? Yahoo CEO? Samsung Galaxy SIII?
- Robert Scoble
Hey Robert - do you have the Galaxy? What's the service behind it?
- John Taschek
Nope, not yet. It was just announced and they didn't give me a test version yet.
- Robert Scoble
http://www.techmeme.com/120503... has the Galaxy SIII info.
- Robert Scoble
Seems over-speced and over-sized. Makes the Dell Streak seem way ahead of its time.
- John Taschek
You know my Cherry Coke Zero is being zeroed-out as I wait... :)
- John Taschek
over-specced? that's a thing?
- Kevin Marks
we're beating a couple of tech glitches back... but we're winning. Stand-by please
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina: we're standing by. :-)
- Robert Scoble
starting our link-up calls. sorry for delay
- Tina Chase Gillmor
what did I miss last week?
- Kevin Marks
Yeah - like this: http://www.google.com/imgres...
- John Taschek
I missed last week too.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin...we saved the world last week. other than that?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I hear the coffee shops are being closed to tourists in Amsterdam.
- John Taschek
Howdy!
- Nir Ben Yona
robert Scoble... you're being paged
- Tina Chase Gillmor
page fault
- Charlie Isaacs
hi everyone
- Charlie Isaacs
i hear lovely tina
- Charlie Isaacs
John doing his Steve Martin imitation
- Charlie Isaacs
cue John on banjo
- Jerome Hughes
Be on air shortly.
- Robert Scoble
I also have a dinosaur.
- John Taschek
oooooh he's a rambling man
- Charlie Isaacs
little tech annoyances today folks. but all will be well with the world momentarily
- Tina Chase Gillmor
testing testing 123
- clive boulton
I don't see anything!
- Francine Hardaway
Aaaah
- Francine Hardaway
We are on now.
- Robert Scoble
Think that the Facebook IPO is so overvalued. Facebook has peaked and growth is small
- Moe Glitz
Google+ would have been much more effective if it was exclusively launched as a Mobile App
- Moe Glitz
I don't hear an echo and I am the customer:-)
- Francine Hardaway
It's a list
- Stephen Pickering
hearing FB's 30+ demographic sick to the teeth of spam app invites (regardless permissions)
- clive boulton
You can have friends or acquaintances on FB
- Francine Hardaway
Robert confirms...wake up Zuck
- clive boulton
oh rats I forgot Robert's Birthday again
- Charlie Isaacs
deletes Facebook account
- Jerome Hughes
Hey Robert, what are your thoughts on the Jack Welch blowup today?
- http://www.facebook.com/XXinTec...
Is this something your likely to comment on in this afternoons chat? #gillmorgang
- dean collins
RIP - like!
- clive boulton
except the dislike button
- Jerome Hughes
Dean: funny, Sheryl Sandberg said much the same thing, except she framed it in nicer language.
- Robert Scoble
Dean: on the other hand, look at Rashmi, who just sold SlideShare. She just had twins. That's what we should focus on.
- Robert Scoble
UK patent act, interesting
- clive boulton
Patent Wars are just for Greedy Lawyers and Shot in the Dark Tech Ideas
- Moe Glitz
This intention thing seems to play right into Zaarly, right Robert?
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen: yes!
- Robert Scoble
We should all be grateful that Tim Berners Lee didn't patent the WWW.
- Moe Glitz
Or Apple Didn't patent Webkit
- Moe Glitz
Amazon ate the retail world whole
- Francine Hardaway
Doc talking on our SocialMRP startup - yay.
- clive boulton
retailers need to push value to the customer during the scan process
- Charlie Isaacs
B&N deal was MS way to get into eTextbooks in a big way. That is their primary reason for the purchase
- studentforce
free wifi in mcdonalds :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Content and Conduit should be separate, not by law, but from a business perspective, but it seems all these companies are trying to be both
- Stephen Pickering
Social overload!!!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
yeah, and if Robert's screens are filled up, then that's really a lot of stuff
- Dale Lature
Tech Hoarder
- Moe Glitz
howmany screens was that? 6?
- Dale Lature
he's going to break?
- Kevin Marks
I feel like Robert. Can't fit another thing and can't use another thing
- Francine Hardaway
Robert Scoble is at the breaking point! That's a quote
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Saturation overload matches Kevin's consolidation and M&A happenings
- clive boulton
Wait until Robert gets Google Glasses
- Moe Glitz
eh?
- Kevin Marks
The problem is that these hits like OMGPop don't seem to last
- Stephen Pickering
Phoenix?
- Francine Hardaway
Right. Been saying this for six months. Incubator bubble
- Francine Hardaway
I wish tech startups focused on innovation in health care, agriculture and education but I guess there's no money in it.
- Alex de Soto
We need a Scoble App
- Moe Glitz
everyone one's a tech user, everyone's addicted, everyone is "invested", and everyone would like a piece of the pie
- Tina Chase Gillmor
They aren't starting companies. They are developing products
- Francine Hardaway
so does that mean the real opportunities lie in the ENTERPRISE ???
- studentforce
Or just features
- Moe Glitz
Alex, my guess is because those industries are so regulated and protected that fresh capital doesn't want to enter
- Stephen Pickering
Taschek and Scoble both product placed drinks
- Dale Lature
Skype Sulk?
- Kevin Marks
@Alex we working on agriculture from top down after failing to get traction bottom up
- clive boulton
Right Steve. My Klout score has been dropping because I am engaged elsewhere for a while
- Francine Hardaway
Yes steve
- Francine Hardaway
Stephen: Where there's a will, there's a way. Unfortunately these are less glamorous to work in.
- Alex de Soto
Lovely McDonalds shot!
- Moe Glitz
Francine, I find the more I engage the more my Klout score decreases. I say stop talking or ignore Klout ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
top down, Charlie in McD's, case in point.
- clive boulton
Klout says I'm influential about 'vegetable'
- Kevin Marks
I need Steve to use his Beatles glasses. If only we were more orgnized
- Tina Chase Gillmor
whatever
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The register as an organ donor on Facebook was interesting. Anybody do that?
- Alex de Soto
klouchebag scores me a 75 "mostly noise"
- Jerome Hughes
@studentforce - yes. using 'web 2.0' biz dev architecture
- clive boulton
Klout says I'm influential about Scobleizer
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think I have some funky 60 glasses on my effects ..
- John Taschek
can it tell him sitting from it being left on the table?
- Kevin Marks
the PlaceMe app sends me Push Notifications like "You're Boring" "You're a Nerd" "Get a Life"
- Charlie Isaacs
Tina, that's the first accurate thing I've heard about Klout lately.
- Robert Scoble
I turned off Placeme push notifications. Battery hog
- Francine Hardaway
On APIs and Copyright (unintended consequences) http://redmonk.com/sogrady...
- clive boulton
Francine good to know. Didn't try it. Now don't have to
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Placeme inside a strip club
- Stephen Pickering
So in other words nothing's changed
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen: in the future you will share even that. Why? Because the system will bring you better strip club experiences if you are really into that.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: hahahahahhahaah
- Stephen Pickering
Boob or Bust!
- Moe Glitz
WE can have a Boston API party !
- studentforce
Privacy is NOT the big issue of this generation. Addiction is. Stephen showed exactly why. Who cares if I want to go to a strip club? But now that you are bringing me to the best ones I'm totally addicted to the system.
- Robert Scoble
Such irony, you can buy the King James Bible on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/The-Bib...
- Charlie Isaacs
We're already seeing the first precursors to the problems we're going to have with addiction (texting while driving, marriages breaking up, etc).
- Robert Scoble
ONLY on Amazon ??
- studentforce
Someone patent the acai berry spam.
- clive boulton
strip clubs while driving?
- Kevin Marks
Fine let's talk about strip clubs
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Who owns the strip club patents?
- Alex de Soto
me too
- studentforce
I received four of them; three from salesforce employees
- studentforce
The Strip Club Bubble
- Moe Glitz
PC and Microsoft Windows 8 are IRRELEVANT that is why. Who cares if a PC is corrupt. Noone uses them anymore. Post PC world
- studentforce
You clicked on the url - THIS IS A PHISHING PAGE
- dean collins
See, when I get one of those crazy DMs I don't know whether to block them because I know it may be a virus
- Stephen Pickering
its not a virus at all its a phishing page
- dean collins
Steve granted tweet permissions to a rogue twitter app.
- clive boulton
get 5-10 of those "Someone's saying… " weekly from among 7k followers
- Jerome Hughes
it IS NOT A HACK - YOU CLICKED ON A LINK that WAS NOT TWITTER
- dean collins
Is Kevin melting?
- Moe Glitz
Kevin is indeed melting
- Tina Chase Gillmor
HE EXPLICITLY FILLED IT IN GUARENTEED - i get these all the time because i run 20+ twitter accounts
- dean collins
Could be a hack of a service with O Auth-connection to your Twitter-account?
- Johannes Siemers
sorry, I had to go away for a minute...I assume you are talking about oauth hacks? there are sites w/info on these types of exploits: http://oauth.net/advisor...
- Charlie Isaacs
here's the explanation I send out to those who send me those that haven't yet said "I was hacked and it's now resolved." …
- Jerome Hughes
got a spammy DM, in case not yet resolved… password change or app access revoke info… http://ow.ly/6vqLd
- Jerome Hughes
oh great, now I am being called typhoid charlie, thanks for that
- Charlie Isaacs
failed twitter app startups sell their permissions to tweet to ad-networks (steve got bit)
- clive boulton
Knowledge is power, with great power comes responsibility .. Charlie. :)
- John Taschek
a trillion trillion quantum fluxes, one will create a Universe
- Stephen Pickering
eg check out this url as an example of what the page looks like - http://twititre.com/ilogin... - lol dont fill in your username or password otherwise your account will start sending out these fake DM's continuing the circle.
- dean collins
http://marketingland.com/the-tec... Saw this today .... funny! New investment Metric System ... gram (as in Instagram)
- studentforce
Arrington always irreverent.
- clive boulton
The bubble is not because of the industry but rather because there is so much liquidity sloshing around due to Central Bank stimulation
- Stephen Pickering
sounds like the financial analysts who say salesforce is way too high on a p/e basis. They don't understand the subscription economy
- studentforce
advertising is a bubble
- Kevin Marks
gee, thanks John, I guess :)
- Charlie Isaacs
But as Oligvy says, the first time you see an ad, the 10th time you see it, you're writing a check
- Stephen Pickering
Advertising revenue surpassed financial markets in NYC this year
- studentforce
I mean the first time you see it you curse, the tenth time, your buying it
- Stephen Pickering
thank god for advertising .... paying for my son's apartment in NYC !!!!!!
- studentforce
lol sorry for the delayed response but here is the screenshot of the twitter phishing page - http://screencast.com/t...
- dean collins
Andreesen: there is a bubble: http://thoughtbasket.com/2012...
- John Taschek
Steve had his voice muted. he didn't know it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Andreesen - There is NO bubble: http://thoughtbasket.com/2012...
- John Taschek
Thank God Advertising sucks on Smartphones
- Moe Glitz
Sorry Andreessen (my typo)...
- John Taschek
But since ads suck on Smartphones, the Facebook app on Smartphones also sucks
- Stephen Pickering
What is Doc's vision of Advertising or Marketing?
- Stephen Pickering
shows that word of mouth is way more powerful than ANY advertising campaign.
- studentforce
becomes you
- studentforce
King John. May the Fourth be with you
- Moe Glitz
The Kids are Allright
- Stephen Pickering
You don't always know what you "want." But if you catch some ads, you get what you need.
- Alex de Soto
Good stuff John
- Moe Glitz
One thing I've noticed, especially being an American, what a relief to watch TV shows on Netflix ad free! never in my life have I had this wonderful experience!
- Stephen Pickering
that's the reason I hate BBc America
- Kevin Marks
Isn't the difference kids dont care about privacy because they use it to discover trust. (thus avoid bad actors)
- clive boulton
winchester this
- Jerome Hughes
"you spend hours downloading apps..." - how tone deaf can a company be?
- Jerome Hughes
Doc: " Don't lie to your wrist, Robert"
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it can alert Scoble's wife when he's excited in a strip club?
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: yes. And my wife will have to deal with it.
- Robert Scoble
or perhaps more importantly, when he's not
- Jerome Hughes
The Death of 'Likes' will not be Televised
- Moe Glitz
So when everything becomes transparent, then the Super Ego won't have so much power over us in enforcing complexes
- Stephen Pickering
Keeping Up With The Scobles
- Moe Glitz
he's being censored by the excitement detector
- Kevin Marks
Skype always craps out at an hour
- Stephen Pickering
Church, Strip Clubs,
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Scoble's wife: oh, no worries, Robert is riding on the Startup Bus again.
- Charlie Isaacs
I met a chap who was starting a Church of Video Games
- Kevin Marks
So the subjective adventure overrides the objective ego conflict
- Stephen Pickering
"Batin'!" in Idiocracy
- Jerome Hughes
Charlie: maybe my wife likes strip clubs too and that's why she married me.
- Robert Scoble
Can we do a Gillmor Gang inside a Strip Club?
- Moe Glitz
Bad Sinatra
- Jerome Hughes
That was a hilarious conversation:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Robert, I'm not going there, literally and figuratively
- Charlie Isaacs
The purpose of life is to experience a subjective adventure rather than an objective achievement.
- Stephen Pickering
Bad Sinatra indeed
- Tina Chase Gillmor
rereading Neuromancer
- Jerome Hughes
if anyone want a Bad Sinatra pin,,, let me know
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm totally addicted to this stuff, I'm going to try a la Kevin to spend a day without any of this stuff
- Stephen Pickering
App for acai berry diet in strip clubs coming soon!
- clive boulton
Facebook is the one brand that may make Apple nervous? Or have the power to?
- Stephen Pickering
if you can't see a holodeck, how do you know you aren't in one?
- Kevin Marks
There is a serious physics theory that life is indeed a hologram already
- Stephen Pickering
so I wanna hear your thoughts on this - is it good or bad for society?
- studentforce
Good if we control it instead of it controlling us, in other words improving our lives, not making us slaves
- Stephen Pickering
Google may have to buy either Twitter, Viddy or Path, before Facebook gobbles them up
- Moe Glitz
great chat and Gillmor Gang today, really fun, got to run... thanks
- Charlie Isaacs
but isn't the purpose of all this tech to 'improve' our lives? Is this a case of the road to hell and good intentions ??
- studentforce
The weird freaky line. Your off phone still broadcasts intent.
- clive boulton
reminded of need for the less fortunate to learn to dictate, now that they can have virtual butlers
- Jerome Hughes
I have an ad from SAP in facebook #targetingfail
- Kevin Marks
Well, it's like Star Wars, are we going to control the system or be slaves to it? That's the jist of star wars
- Stephen Pickering
and why do we have to expend the energy to 'CONTROL'
- studentforce
Yeah, I chose the wrong word, control isn't the right conotation
- Stephen Pickering
Great show today
- Moe Glitz
Doc's book http://www.amazon.com/The-Int...
- John Taschek
Thanks everyone!
- Robert Scoble
thanks everyone! Fun show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Chat room was on fire! (cool)
- clive boulton