Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PST

who's on today? - dlature

I am on - Kevin Marks

Hi guys - Keith Teare

hi, folks, it's a beautiful Saturday in Chicagoland - Jerome Hughes

I am on now, waiting for the call. - Robert Scoble

Sorry that we are running late. - Robert Scoble

We are about to start. - Robert Scoble

I'm waiting :-) - Keith Teare

Late starts are easier to make for the rest of us. ;-) - Ian McGee

is this becoming the regular day? - Jeroen De Miranda

max gillmor! - Jerome Hughes

Jeroen: nah, it's just that a lot of us have been traveling the past couple of weeks. Next week is gonna be tough for me to make it, because I'll be inside Facebook's datacenter. - Robert Scoble

thanks.... checked in yesterday, so that is why I am asking ;-) - Jeroen De Miranda

you'd think facebook's datacentre would have decent connectivity - Kevin Marks

Kevin: yeah, except I'm afraid to jack in! :-) - Robert Scoble

Only if you connect "Open Compute" compatible devices! ;) - Daniel Chow

Last United flight I did had no WiFi. Few weeks ago. - Keith Teare

Levy also wrote Hackers... what do you think about Mike Elgan's Computerworld opinion post on "Larry Page's first mistake"? http://www.computerworld.com/s... - Jerome Hughes

Google has a key to the future of social. The Address Book in Android. Social IS Mobile and the Address book is the graph. - Keith Teare

yes Keith, exactly. Android is a huge source of useful information - Kevin Marks

Social isn't primarily related to search. That is a blind alley. its about sharing and communicating. - Keith Teare

Elgan talks about "the party" - Jerome Hughes

good remark on UStream still using Flash.... my MBA is running hot, 76 degrees Celsius right now... - Jeroen De Miranda

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10... was saying youtube will commission - Kevin Marks

Youtube vs Netflix- who will dominate streaming? - Tim Jones

Tim: both for different reasons. YouTube is my favorite, though, because I'm a media producer. - Robert Scoble

nah, Google wants more Android apps stores out there- more people to access Google search - Tim Jones

where's Apple streaming? - Tim Jones

depends how you define streaming... Apple does stream to AppleTV - Kevin Marks

Apple streaming (whatever it is) vs Netflix vs Youtube? how many Apple TV sold vs maybe Xbox that also streams Netflix? - Tim Jones

im getting my android apps from the amazon marketplace already, and they took my credit card to give me my "free" angry birds rio, very clever - Julio Fernandez

Kindle platform vs iBooks? - Tim Jones

the amazon marketplace is amazon's - Julio Fernandez

Except perhaps for Buzz. ;-) - Ian McGee

Facebook checkin is pretty popular - Tim Jones

4sq is more mainstream than Latitude. Im seeing 4sq deals in Sugar Land, TX which is a suburb in Houston - Kashif Khan

latitude keeps turning itself off with every google maps update on android - Kevin Marks

Latitude regularly sends me reminder emails that it's on -- unlikely I'll forget. - Ian McGee

google navigation is probably hugely used - Kevin Marks

Google navigation is big. thats one of the highlights of an android device - Kashif Khan

Nikesh Arora was a President at Google (along with Larry and Sergey) until the reorg before last - Kevin Marks

Steve... CC defines as... disruptive vs. sustaining innovations - Jerome Hughes

good that google is thinking long term? - Tim Jones

surface - Jerome Hughes

microsoft still most profitable of all tech companies - Tim Jones

Tim: I like that about Google. But Microsoft has TONS of R&D too (which led to surface and Kinect) - Robert Scoble

Kinect was acquired, no? - Ian McGee

Ian: the hardware was licensed from a startup in Israel. - Robert Scoble

(But agree in general; R&D is good) - Ian McGee

But they were already doing lots of work on new input methods. - Robert Scoble

& IBM does more basic research by far for this reason, hence Watson - Jerome Hughes

Amazingly MS left Kinect open -- that's driving lots of activity. Witness implementation of Google April fools joke - Ian McGee

Ian agreed. - Robert Scoble

MSFT getting smarter about open source - Kevin Marks

Apple's sterile, totalitarianism gives me the scary chill vs more fun, woolly, throw it in the wall and see what's sticks approach - Tim Jones

for old folks, it's a fashion, for young folks, games are life - Jerome Hughes

It's not about playinggames - Ian McGee

Think of it more as improved feedback, attention to user experience, corner store friendliness - Ian McGee

andrew... fun wins! - Jerome Hughes

the gamification approach is less attractive overall than a phatic one - Kevin Marks

is silence in radio like white space in print? - Kevin Marks

Black Ops is fun! - Tim Jones

to disrupt, an established company typically needs a skunkworks operation that can handle different business drivers as good opportunities - Jerome Hughes

Dead air is anathema to Google. - Alex de Soto

kevin - this page intentionally left blank - Jerome Hughes

my last tweet was 'peanut butter and bacon' - Kevin Marks

if the rest of your content is good, your followers will tolerate plenty of that sort of stuff - Jerome Hughes

More than a phrase - a startup! - Ian McGee

eating those dots on Waze is fun - Tim Jones

kevin ~ http://baconfestchicago.com/ - Jerome Hughes

if they can get Andrew to talk intelligently, that's a real feat - Kevin Marks

The envy economy - Ian McGee

Google paid off Apple to have their search boxes in their products - Kevin Marks

that delusion does seem to parallel MS w/ Vista, plenty on that in the Elgan "LP's first blunder" post - Jerome Hughes

Money comes through search advertising on Android - Keith Teare

not direct - Keith Teare

App stores are a fringe business for both google and apple, but core for amazon - Kevin Marks

Google gives to me for free - Tim Jones

But Android is NOT that interesting fro developers yet. Size of units shipped not the key number. It id $ spent though app store - Keith Teare

gCheckout for me - Jerome Hughes

Android is new Symbian - Keith Teare

ubiquitous but boring - Keith Teare

Business trusts both Google and Amazon with their credit cards. - Alex de Soto

very true, Alex - Jerome Hughes

consumers don't care that developers are concerned about Android - Tim Jones

Andrew, it tells you validated information vs. possible trolls - Jerome Hughes

and Elgan points out that they have plenty of building blocks that need an integration that's a party - Jerome Hughes

Aardvark is still asking questions, but at much lower rate. - Ian McGee

sustaining innovation in search vs. an integrated solution that could disrupt search - Jerome Hughes

Goog hired Ed Chi to inject social scents into search http://rww.to/hY9AYg - clive boulton

"we can't do that because it would disrupt the cash cow, and our current customers say they don't want it" - Jerome Hughes

yyyyyeeeeeeesssss!!!!! - Robert Scoble

google doesn't tend to worry about disrupting the cash cow - Kevin Marks

<== routed trucks by shuffling 96 column cards on a table like the one on which your iMac sits, Robert - Jerome Hughes

"we can't do that because it would disrupt the cash cow, and our current customers say they don't want it", and still we continue to make most money in tech -Microsoft - Tim Jones

Tim: I've seen lots of companies that used to be market leaders and used to make a lot of money who are gone now. - Robert Scoble

Microsoft will just take longer to fall because people hate change but the change is afoot! - Robert Scoble

whatever Microsoft is doing continues to work - Tim Jones

after years and years of MS bashing - Tim Jones

Tim: absolutely false. If it was working the stock price would go up. - Robert Scoble

or they'll do other things that matter in skunkworks operations, possibly, if they can resist squashing success - Jerome Hughes

ok ok i like the cr-48 over my xp netbook - Tim Jones

But Googles core is search and advertising. Not that useful if you want to beat Facebook and Twitter - Keith Teare

Going back to the core won't help - Keith Teare

But better than professional execs - Keith Teare

"professional" - Keith Teare

Enron's stock price was also going up at one time - Tim Jones

better to innovate in a skunkworks - Jerome Hughes

or many - Jerome Hughes

Page and Ballmer should swap , lets see what happens - clive boulton

need to make everyone a skunkworks. challenge is collaborating - Kevin Marks

Skunkworks has the advantage of being able to ignore existing customers & revenue streams - Ian McGee

Google should focus on how to better index social, not on creating a better social. - Alex de Soto

so they can compete with what they might eventually subsume - Jerome Hughes

/nod Jerome - Ian McGee

skunkworks was the way Google Wave was developed, outside of the USA.... did not work out... - Jeroen De Miranda

it only works if tested by a market, etc. - Jerome Hughes

and even then, not only - Jerome Hughes

Wave was great !!! but none of my friends were on it. The concept of invite only killed it imo - Kashif Khan

oops, "only" = " - Jerome Hughes

they stopped doing Wave or stopped doing LSD? - dlature

"always" - Jerome Hughes

Levy's next book should be on the impact of LSD on the software industry - Ian McGee

were they perhaps not allowed to? that's what usually takes down the disruptors in the skunkworks - Jerome Hughes

As a CS student at that time, it would have been perfect for our software projects and classes - Kashif Khan

Wave is like WebOS- someone else will use it in the future - Tim Jones

Goog's new head of social http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~echi... - clive boulton

Ian, I think Markoff wrote that one - Kevin Marks

no way for a new customer set to invent cool stuff with it - Jerome Hughes

What the Dormouse Said: How the Sixties Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry' by John Markoff http://amzn.to/eZ3nEN - Kevin Marks

remembering CASE tools delivered in the '90s with a single set of templates and no template editor - Jerome Hughes

ridiculous invite system killed wave too. Wait was forever - Kashif Khan

read the FF thread - Tim Jones

Thanks Kevin; looks great! - Ian McGee

Friendfeed realtime with Track connecting FB and Twitter with filtering based on your usage. - Aron Michalski

and there's Doc - Tina Chase Gillmor

throw it all on the wall and see what's sticks - Tim Jones

yay, Doc! - and thanks, Ian - Jerome Hughes

How does Doc know more than everyone even without being here? He's the man...;-) - Aron Michalski

Personal beats social - Kevin Marks

jealousy is one of the seven deadly sins - Jerome Hughes

selling something other than advertising - Jerome Hughes

Google could make the cloud experience totally baked in, especially for us Android users. - Aron Michalski

a way for customers to invent cool stuff with it - Jerome Hughes

TV- the bigger the screen, the better - Tim Jones

TV is all about wasting time. - Alex de Soto

They could make the amazon cloud thing bake into all the features we already use...and for less. - Aron Michalski

Alex: bingo! - Robert Scoble

Aron - good to see you out here, an entrance sort of like Doc's - Jerome Hughes

Black Ops on a 50 inch is friggin awesome - Tim Jones

we can afford all of this, dammit! - Jerome Hughes

last minute carpet bombing, talking out my butt...great to see you Jerome. - Aron Michalski

Cricket is like baseball done right - Kevin Marks

YouTube could be very social. That's Google too! - Alex de Soto

Agree re social tv... - Ian McGee

How can I like your comment Kevin lol - Kashif Khan

missed it last week and then caught up - Jerome Hughes

(and the girls flash, eh Kevin? ;-) - Aron Michalski

cool. Doc brought his monday - friday energy - Tina Chase Gillmor

cricket is gamification of baseball- more points - Kevin Marks

we'll see in KC, Kansas - dlature

And it can be a time waster :) ( it does run all day ) - Kashif Khan

Drunk in the sun... - Aron Michalski

I want Google to show Community Net Access and usage beat up on the big carriers via competition - dlature

Kevin's walking on dangerous ground - Tim Jones

Golf is a good walk spoilt - Kevin Marks

Google calendar does a great job with time zones. Something Facebook doesn't seem to be able to do. - Ian McGee

I understand games, I don't understand watching sport - Kevin Marks

the singularity is at hand - Tim Jones

Kevin-- first saw actual cricket in background on HD screen in Indian restaurant w/ new clients in BF, Chain o' Lakes, IL, some Cubs fans ignoring, was distracted when shouldn't have been - Jerome Hughes

ok, time to watch The Masters, txs for the reminder Robert! - Julio Fernandez

Kevin: watching sport is a great way to waste time! - Robert Scoble

participating... the killer app - Jerome Hughes

read this about cricket: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn... - Kevin Marks

Giant vs Dodgers- Monday- text it! - Tim Jones

why is wasting time more valuable than saving time (consumer vs enterprise...) - clive boulton

cycling 50m riding two trains vs. driving 2 hours to & fro said BF = more fun & costs less - Jerome Hughes

cliveb: because time wasters buy more beer than productive people. :-) - Robert Scoble

will do, Kevin, was confused :D - Jerome Hughes

Robert: i'd better start selling beer - clive boulton

ADT, was that a payroll service? - Jerome Hughes

cliveb: that is Anheuser Busch's job. You should just take a transaction fee for aggregating time wasters into an efficient crowd! :-) - Robert Scoble

Robert - that keeps working while the wasters have jobs & money - Jerome Hughes

when you're playing, you're at least learning something - Jerome Hughes

Google and Facebook should merge? - Tim Jones

Learn alot watching this show too. Lasers to heat up his food - who knew? - Ian McGee

robert: sound advice, am working at consumerizing the enterprise - clive boulton

Ping 2.0 or will it be 3.1? - Jerome Hughes

Will Twitter let Apple build a client into iOS then? ;-) - Ian McGee

considering momentum, why would they not? - Jerome Hughes

Ian: yes. Deeply integrated, I hear. More than possibly just a client. - Robert Scoble

what happened to Apple Ping? - Tim Jones

Tim-- look ahead, not behind :D - Jerome Hughes

yes...blow up cable TV as we know it - dlature

There's that 3D camera...Or is it Larry Page? - Alex de Soto

told some cyclists about that, Robert, they totally got it - Jerome Hughes

GoPro 3D hero! - clive boulton

Need the sailboat mount for that camera - Ian McGee

3D Gillmor Gang - when? - clive boulton

yeah, Gillmor Gang in HD - dlature

ADT! ADT! - Jerome Hughes

3D Tri-caster? Is that 9? - Ian McGee

waste time - Tim Jones

Good show everyone - Ian McGee

Good show. Not a waste of time. - Alex de Soto

cliveb: 3D is VERY hard to do. It's a real pain in the ass, actually. - Robert Scoble

3D is a waste of time - Kevin Marks

as are most disruptive technologies before they disrupt - Jerome Hughes

Kevin: the ULTIMATE waste of time! :-) - Robert Scoble

3D TV sales at Costco on the rise - clive boulton

ADT in chat! - Jerome Hughes

cliveb: 3D is very cool, except distribution sucks. - Robert Scoble

really not convinced by 3d tv's - Kevin Marks

Kevin: when you can do your own content it is mondo cool. - Robert Scoble

like playing vs. watching - Jerome Hughes

65 inch 3D vizio $3399 plus 3D direct TV channel (sweet) - clive boulton

cliveb: Vizio is sending me one for my studio! - Robert Scoble

Nice!! - clive boulton

Yeah. - Robert Scoble

Gotta figure out where to put it. - Robert Scoble

glad to have reshuffled my dad's basement recroom yet again this week! - Jerome Hughes

Smaller rooms w/ bigger walls - clive boulton

it's been mine since he retired to the road 20 years ago... RIP, coming up on 3 years - Jerome Hughes

prioritizing to less stuff = the magic answer - Jerome Hughes

vote 4 more Scobleizer in 3D - clive boulton

w/you, clive... full disclosure... bought it @marketValue enabling Dad's retirement - Jerome Hughes

seeya. - Robert Scoble

clive: the problem with 3D is it takes four times longer to process, edit, and upload. - Robert Scoble

#FF still rawks! Robert... Thunderbolt! - Jerome Hughes

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