GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
Susan Beebe,
Nir Ben Yona,
Tina Chase Gillmor,
manielse (Mark Nielsen),
Robert Scoble,
Chien-Yu Lin,
and
Jerome Hughes
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We will start in a couple of minutes. Just getting hooked up now.
- Robert Scoble
hi
- Keith Teare
Glad you're back at the helm, Tina!
- Tom Guarriello
Let's keep Robert calm this week, the Zebras were restless enough for him this week! ;-)
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Hah!
- Robert Scoble
Hello!!
- Susan Beebe
Hi everybody!
- Francine Hardaway
I miss friendfeed dammit
- Susan Beebe
So do I, Susuan
- Francine Hardaway
Miss you too Susan, FF for Life!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Yes!! :)
- Susan Beebe
Aloha!
- Nir Ben Yona
Steve, they don't remember Last Tango in Paris
- Francine Hardaway
Off to a good start!
- Tom Guarriello
I can't see the comment thread on the page. Had to come to Friendfeed to see it.
- Karoli
You need Pages app to manage FB pages
- Tom Guarriello
friendfeed needs app.net integration
- Kevin Marks
Kevin is drinking something white and frothy!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Facebook Android app reportedly being forced on Facebook employees, will be working nicely on Nexus 7 soon enough....
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
it's Pellegrino Limonata, Tina
- Kevin Marks
Sounds lovely Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I find I can modulate my circles, but I see random stuff on G+ still
- Francine Hardaway
Karoli... yes the building43 comment area is borked
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thanks Tina, glad it wasn't me. Same thing happened last week too. :(
- Karoli
It has been borked for a long time
- Francine Hardaway
Hello! Think Amy Higgins who just joined the Google+/Local team should tune in...tweeted at her! :)
- Tina Hui
Pinterest Effect
- Tom Guarriello
Sadly it's been down for a while now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Right, Keith.
- Francine Hardaway
COOL - thanks @Tina Hui
- Susan Beebe
Thanks, Tina Hui - that will be a huge help.
- John Taschek
Those photos are there more during the day than at night
- Francine Hardaway
it's a lemonade, about 150 calories a can
- Kevin Marks
I just add my list feeds and it works great.
- Karoli
Here comes Robert again!
- Francine Hardaway
He's gonna blow!! :D
- Susan Beebe
Sheesh. And people thought we were hot-headed on NewsGang.
- Karoli
I had to turn down the scoble volume!
- Frank Paynter
oh no, he's blowing early.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Filters are missing... We need a #NoCats filter ;)
- Susan Beebe
I really want a #NoCats filter
- Francine Hardaway
I'm following the dog shame blog a lot these days. Cats are totally passe.
- Frank Paynter
That would get rid of all the news about that Russian punk band
- John Taschek
My problem with any social network to date. I've attempted to unmesh the social spaghetti in the past through algorithms, it's a very tough filter to crack.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
YES - gmail style filtering!!!! PLEASE :)
- Susan Beebe
Happy to connect dots. :)
- Tina Hui
Happy Birthday Karoli
- Francine Hardaway
gmail style filtering- ditto
- Da
Hey HBD @Karoli !! :)
- Susan Beebe
FIlters are a first world problem
- Francine Hardaway
Filters provide the means to sanity on the web ;)
- Susan Beebe
Most people don't have enough friends to filter
- Francine Hardaway
I can't help that ;) heh
- Susan Beebe
We are all edge cases in one way or another
- Francine Hardaway
yup!
- Susan Beebe
@Susan and Francine, thanks!
- Karoli
I hear you "loud and clear" Scoble.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Robert: most of us don't need filters the way you do
- Francine Hardaway
gmail style filtering shows relevant email on my Nexus gmail widget
- Da
Prokofy@ What happened to him/her?
- Francine Hardaway
haven't heard that name for a while
- Jerome Hughes
He has kept me off so far
- Francine Hardaway
yea me too... whatevs
- Susan Beebe
No kidding. Robert is Walter White at the end
- Francine Hardaway
Blue content!
- Tom Guarriello
If only we had such passion for more of the meta.
- Karoli
Don't we have the technology to do this already? If we can use Facebook's facial recognition program - and toggle a selection of "human" vs "non-human" images - couldn't we screen out pets, food and landscapes (three things that are usually noise for most users)?
- Chien-Yu Lin
I'm only 2 episodes into season 5, no spoilers
- Kevin Marks
Private on Twitter = Favorites
- christina sponselli
Just RT ya Tina - we gotta get Scoble on camera 'xlodin'
- Susan Beebe
China has good filtering...
- mal
I'm caught up. Switching to Sons of Anarchy and The Good Wife
- Francine Hardaway
my G+ is only privately shared items
- Da
We do need real FILTERING for streams, content, people, brands and links
- Susan Beebe
we have lots of filtering, not all of it visible
- Kevin Marks
Visible? ;)
- Susan Beebe
Don't we also have internal filtering?
- Francine Hardaway
did some say filtering? :)
- Nick Halstead
Skypes new muting behaviour is shit, isn't it
- Kevin Marks
Noooo ;P
- Susan Beebe
Thanks Susan - she may be in a meeting.
- Tina Hui
Sorry, I meant Tina Gillmor tweet ;)
- Susan Beebe
What does Steve mean here by multi-plexing?
- Francine Hardaway
iPhone needs to do some catching up in China
- Da
Yes, Kevin... we are going to try to tweak Skype this week based on some new info someone pointed us at
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think he means "aggregating" for multi-plexing? not sure. I know what it means on an ethernet network though ;)
- Susan Beebe
It sounds like Keith Teare is trying to solve two problems at once: (1) For the publisher, a "bucketing" that creates a broadcast audience which also addresses an element of privacy; and (2) For the user, a pre-selected, filtered channel of information. But this is still "tagging", right? - even if it is by audience intent (rather than by keywords)?
- Chien-Yu Lin
And in movie theatres
- Francine Hardaway
If we talk about them every Friday, I bet we can get them to be improved as quickly as Track was
- Francine Hardaway
I use a microphone "mute" app on skype cuz I don't trust it
- Susan Beebe
There it was: Track
- Francine Hardaway
it mutes everyone else too much. I have headphones on
- Kevin Marks
ooh wow, that is not good....geez
- Susan Beebe
Need to de-mux your published content... one item should be splittable across the whole range of streams
- Frank Paynter
Google + has an API - it is limited though- https://developers.google.com/+...
- John Taschek
If not filters, then what? How do we optimize for signal and eliminate the noise?
- Susan Beebe
"Applications are limited to a courtesy usage quota" John
- Kevin Marks
I feel "push" is going to be mentioned next ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Frank, I do that with Buffer
- Francine Hardaway
But you go to the "buckets" or filters you care about first. And/Or allow them only in your main stream.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
it's 2008 all over again.
- Karoli
Karoli, that only makes us younger!
- Francine Hardaway
I'll look at Buffer... I'm not current these days
- Frank Paynter
that works for me. :)
- Karoli
But a family member may still send cat pictures but you care about the other stuff.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
what if the categorization was crowd sourced, someone could flag a cat picture "cat"
- mal
Robert's audience, excluding the ones he's blocked.
- Karoli
flag (tags) would be awesome
- Susan Beebe
geez sorry about that
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Keith, Me, too. Much more efficient
- Francine Hardaway
http://www.childcareexchange.com/eed... Awe increases your available time!
- Frank Paynter
I was talking about block-sharing on twitter yesterday
- Kevin Marks
block sharing? hmmm
- Susan Beebe
I count on my Reader every day
- Tom Guarriello
Like the whole Gang, but Keith is always the voice of reason. IMHO.
- Chien-Yu Lin
subscribing to other people's block lists...
- Kevin Marks
CHien-Yu Lin that's because he's overseas
- Francine Hardaway
Those ZEBRAS were awesome!!
- Susan Beebe
Google Reader is awesome
- Da
Francine LOL
- Susan Beebe
Karoli: yeah, but I don't block very many. Out of 380,000 I've blocked about 40 people, mostly for spam reasons.
- Robert Scoble
@Francine - that a Brit thing, water-supply thing or other?
- Chien-Yu Lin
And me. :)
- Karoli
Little of both:-)
- Francine Hardaway
I block spammers every freakin' day and we all must do our part ;)
- Susan Beebe
Agreed, Google Reader is my only real content source. Most other places are to output some and see some personal connection news.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
someone's phone just made noise and I thought it was mine. Yes, the mind is the first to go.
- Karoli
i checked mine too haha
- Susan Beebe
Guess who's in my "Firehosers" circle
- Frank Paynter
Frank: heh.
- Robert Scoble
I guess Scoble!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
smiling here...
- Frank Paynter
haha Frank!
- Susan Beebe
How's everyone doing today?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Great angle of the remote folks looking at Steve, @Tina Chase Gillmor
- christina sponselli
Hey somebody's phone is ringing ;)
- Susan Beebe
ouch down here
- Jerome Hughes
ok, that was weird. LOL. I'm looking at every device I have to figure out what is ringing that I don't recognize.
- Karoli
Plato appears on the GG!
- Tom Guarriello
Hollywood Robert is about to join us
- Tina Chase Gillmor
refresh fixed it
- Jerome Hughes
Just another Bozo on the Banter Bus ==>
- Frank Paynter
Put 'em back on Robert. I didn't get the shot
- Tina Chase Gillmor
my comments on some blogs end up one facebook
- Kevin Marks
especially techcrunch
- Kevin Marks
Frank, We're All Bozos on This Bus!
- Tom Guarriello
that's the kind of de-muxing I mentioned above
- Frank Paynter
Of course, let's also pay attention to the fact that the noise is intentional in many cases.
- Karoli
heh...
- Frank Paynter
my de-mux comment was for @kevin
- Frank Paynter
voting helps in finding good blog comments
- Da
I too have lots of 'opportunity' in my life !
- studentforce
@Tom, I heard that somewhere b4...
- Frank Paynter
Meh n branch
- Kevin Marks
I like Branch. Quora, not so much.
- Karoli
echo chamber in curated comments
- Da
But having said that, I'm not a fan of the elite conversation.
- Karoli
I like Branch.
- Francine Hardaway
But don't we kind of accept a limited dialogue format already with the quantity limits on G+ Hangout?
- Chien-Yu Lin
Plus the riffraff out here, that is!
- Tom Guarriello
i think conversations should take place between blogs, federated redundantly between them and optionally an interchangeable third party.
- mal
feudal and futile
- studentforce
in GG, Friendfeed is where a whole lot of the action is at
- Da
Feudal/Futile. Nice one, Kevin.
- Tom Guarriello
I pretty much agree with Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I love how Steve starts off with the premise that 'Steve is right"!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Crushed not to be on Gillmor Gang.; pissed not to be on Branch
- Francine Hardaway
I work with him. I love him... It's pathetically cute
- Tina Chase Gillmor
a G+ conversation about this recently
- Kevin Marks
twitter hashtags to filter
- Da
Oh francine... we love you
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Does anyone else have a sense that Twitter is our generation's CB Radio?
- Chien-Yu Lin
or twitter is our generation's bloomberg machine
- studentforce
What about app.net?
- christina sponselli
concierge track
- Jerome Hughes
Twitter's founders origin was related to dispatch (i.e. CB Radio-style communication) @Chien-Yu
- John Taschek
Not only shut off developers, they shut off users.
- Karoli
What's the URL for that?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Bob Wyman's IM-based track app: http://frackim.appspot.com/
- Kevin Marks
don't agree on app.net. I think they have potential to turn twitter into the pipeline without the value.
- Karoli
App.net will fail - walled garden w/ $50 entry fee - another me too product / #FAIL
- Susan Beebe
ugh. i hate facebook.
- Karoli
@Taschek - Did not know that: Thanks. I was kind of making a sarcastic social commentary about how sometimes democracy of publishing is a bad idea ...
- Chien-Yu Lin
what's robert showing? looks like facebook
- Kevin Marks
Thanks Kevin, I meant Robert's Google Doc page that he was showing briefly.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
susan, one of the things about app.net that I like is that there's a barrier for trolls.
- Karoli
@Chien-Yu - sarcastic but appropriate!
- John Taschek
A list on facebook
- Susan Beebe
@Karoli - ahh good point
- Susan Beebe
App.net as corporate intranet product
- Da
too much momentum
- studentforce
Honestly, I see very few ads on FB, too.
- Tom Guarriello
@Scoble - But are the ads you are seeing more relevant to you? Could the ads be more targeted now?
- Chien-Yu Lin
there are plenty of ads on fb, but I don't see them
- Kevin Marks
if alot of my FB friends like a product, then I'd want to know about that product
- Da
Chien: yes, the ads are getting better.
- Robert Scoble
at some point we're going to have to either accept a different business model or else accept dictates of corporate influence. I'll take a different model.
- Karoli
Ferhad's 'uncanny valley of ads' was a good point: http://www.slate.com/article...
- Kevin Marks
@Scoble - That could be a sign that your faith in Z is paying off. Better targeting has to be a fundamental requisite to a more natural mobile experience.
- Chien-Yu Lin
I don't like Timeline
- Tina Chase Gillmor
'cos I don't use FB much, my timeline is techcrunch comments and pix of me standing next to people
- Kevin Marks
Facebook added Friendfeed's features to its system ;)
- Nir Ben Yona
most people only add friends and family in FB
- Da
I use Lists in Facebook extensively!!
- Susan Beebe
Is anyone drinking every time Robert mentions venture capitalists? :)
- Karoli
@Tina Chase Gillmor - Do you not think Timeline is specifically designed to remind you that Facebook is the multimedia scrapbook of your life? And in this way, is designed to bond to you through captured memories in a linear, chronological format? Isn't this the premise of Blade Runner?: What are we but an assembly of memories and mementos?
- Chien-Yu Lin
sheesh. I live by my lists on twitter.
- Karoli
I don't use lists on twitter or g+ really
- Kevin Marks
Twitter lists are great tool for segmenting users on the backend. Just make them private.
- christina sponselli
That "hot" "Trends" on Google+ is now the "Explore" area
- Susan Beebe
Thank you, Susan!
- John Taschek
no kidding, lists allow multiple timelines, would need more accounts if they went away
- Jerome Hughes
bwahahahaha. I simply don't believe google gives a rip about the iphone. they're as silo'd as the others.
- Karoli
so steve thinks google+ is the social network iphone, then?
- Karoli
I like this term "bwahahahaha" @karoli - may I borrow it for team meetings?
- John Taschek
By all means!
- Karoli
note 2!
- Da
Fighting words Susan!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
why buy branded PC when u can build one
- Da
Trying to keep my mouth shut lol
- Susan Beebe
yup! I can speak to that
- studentforce
I love that TV app ;)
- Susan Beebe
Chien-Yu - yeah I don't really use facebook to be a linear srapbook. More of a friend news reader
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I realised that I haven't seen a TV ad in weeks yesterday.
- Kevin Marks
Lucky you, Kevin. I don't watch tv and still see them.
- Karoli
nokia's html5 map is getting better
- Da
@Tina Chase Gillmore (TCG) - Sure, but I don't think you - or maybe any of the other people on this thread - is really "the targeted audience" for Facebook. I think the targeted audience is the person who would use Timeline in such a manner.
- Chien-Yu Lin
I was using the web browser instead of facebook app
- Susan Beebe
some of my friends are on Facebook. Most are on twitter.
- Karoli
or that's the conversion of those people that they're aiming for, start them talking with their friends, and then progress them to life sharing
- Jerome Hughes
the "smoky fire of Facebook..." LOL. Robert, the poet.
- Karoli
Twitter's notifications on android are shit. I need to update my nanoTweeter fork, clearly
- Kevin Marks
the billion folks that use Windows might disagree
- Da
imagine most will still want the best tablet
- Jerome Hughes
I'm pushing Mom toward the IPad instead of a new laptop. Whatever she gets, it won't be a damned PC
- Karoli
Did MS think Windows 8 was going to be their OS X?
- Tom Guarriello
Wasn't that NT, Tom?
- Kevin Marks
Maybe this is their next shot at it, Kevin?
- Tom Guarriello
You will still need to live in both worlds for the next 5+ years if not 10+. Because of most people's jobs.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
web means not having to worry about windows too much
- Kevin Marks
IE9 TV ads promoting it as a shiny new web
- Kevin Marks
But Apple TV is in the news today.http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012...
- John Taschek
Web circumvents os's
- Tom Guarriello
Apple needs to catch up in China and India and Fernley, Nevada
- Da
usability
- Jerome Hughes
it's still Apple's hobby
- Da
they're moving the Motorola folks into the Merchandise Mart just outside the loop, from pretty far out in the suburbs… some say it's being done partly in order to shed people
- Jerome Hughes
That ball shows that Larry Page wasn
- Tom Guarriello
@Kevin - Again, each time I see that Nexus product, I'm laughing as I am reminded of your picture of Dr. Who's Ood.
- Chien-Yu Lin
't keeping his eye on the "ball" as much as people thought.
- Tom Guarriello
I have three Apple TVs and use them constantly.
- Tom Guarriello
I use the nexus Q in the garden for music
- Kevin Marks
@Gang - Can we always have at least one critique of a Gilmore Girls episode?
- Chien-Yu Lin
http://www.youtube.com/watch... for steve
- Kevin Marks
New MS logo...meh meh meh meh
- Tom Guarriello
Good recovery, Steve.
- christina sponselli
Amy Higgins from Google+ is listening. :)
- Tina Hui
I call my kids "Gillmor Girls"!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tom - did that Apple feedback help you at all?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
No, still dorky, Tina.
- Tom Guarriello
@TCG - Never thought any of the boys were good enough for Rory...
- Chien-Yu Lin
medium, keep forgetting that name
- Kevin Marks
I haven't changed any settings yet.
- Tom Guarriello
Darn, Tom. Should we go bak to the mat with them?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
IDK, Tina. I'm just doing the stuff the software encourages me to do and GG is only podcast behaving like that.
- Tom Guarriello
Maybe test it out Tom, then report back on any positive, or otherwise, changes
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Overall, the new Facebook app ROCKS! Too bad it's still missing some good features like tagging people and sharing posts.
- Nir Ben Yona
Rory was amazing. I like visiting Los Gatos...reminds me of the Gilmore Girls set.
- Tina Hui
This coming Tuesday?
- Tom Guarriello
@Hui - There's got to be a weekly Gilmore Girls podcast. If not, maybe we can start one. ;)
- Chien-Yu Lin
It still works...
- Tom Guarriello
@Gang - Another great show. Always learn something new.
- Chien-Yu Lin
@Chien-Yu Lin. I'm all in. Hopefully perhaps Tina Gillmor and Susan Beebe too? I know Heidi Groshelle would be interested.
- Tina Hui
Thanks everyone....you are all terrific and we value your support each and every time we do our show.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thank you!
- Tina Hui
I like the geeky -- eerrrr weekly - Girls Podcast idea!
- Susan Beebe
are we on today (August 30)
- Ed Schlesinger
I'm always at school !!!!!!
- Ed Schlesinger
they need to be using studentforce
- Ed Schlesinger
Dick Tracy realized
- Ed Schlesinger