Gillmor Gang, Live Recording Session at 1p

Waiting for the call... - Robert Scoble

Who is on today? - Xenophrenia

Hello all - Nick Halstead

Loic is on. - Robert Scoble

I hear voices ... - Xenophrenia

I bet Danny will be on because of google instant launch - Maciej Głuszek

We are live. - Robert Scoble

Cool Loic. - Stephen Pickering

What was released? I have no idea what you are talking about. - Todd Hoff

because Microsoft gave him money to do Silverlight - Jerry Schuman

hilarious that Jason C. starts the thisweekin show at the same time. - Jerry Schuman

Jerry: I didn't realize Hollywood is a great place for a tech show. Seems San Francisco is a lot better. :-) - Robert Scoble

Santa Monica to be exact but we have our fair share of tech startups down here. ;-) - Jerry Schuman

Yeah, but only 1/1000th of what's in SF. - Robert Scoble

Steve should call into the show and do an Audible ad. - Jerry Schuman

Yeah, I always wondered why Mahalo/Jason was based in LA instead of the Valley - Stephen Pickering

Yes, we cannot compete with the shear number of ex-Google engineers spinning off startups ;-) - Jerry Schuman

Jerry: or the Facebook ones. Or the Apple ones. Or the HP ones. Or the Yahoo ones. Or the Cisco ones. Or the Twitter ones. Etc etc etc etc. - Robert Scoble

Or the Intel ones. Or the AMD ones. Or the Lucas Films ones. etc etc etc etc. :-) - Robert Scoble

I still regret not taking the opportunity to move north with SuperMac in the late 80's. - Jerry Schuman

Seems like Fred Wilson/ @Dens, etc. are so competitive with NY vs West Coast, almost like they have a complex about it. - Stephen Pickering

Santa Monica is a mini-tech zone in LA, but most startups I met there are entertainment focused - Kevin Marks

Loic talking about partnerships is similar to what I'm hearing from Microsoft http://windowsteamblog.com/windows... - Kevin Marks

Actually downtown LA is actually a hot bed for startups... in the truest sense of the word. - Jerry Schuman

seesmic desktop verses web browsers as platform. - sull

I was watching some bald french guy with funny shoes talking about "building a brand' - Jerry Schuman

using chrome + brizzly.com is quite nice. - sull

what about chrome offline "web apps"? - https://chrome.google.com/webstor... - sull

my only complaint is that I completely dislike the horizontal columns layouts.... - Jerry Schuman

the seesmic UI is cold. i used it last night and today. uninstalled it today. does not feel modern, elegant. but certainly a great effort. - sull

Is IAC anything more than an opportunistic player without any product vision whatsoever? - coldbrew

FYI: Steve's audio is very low in comparison to all the others. I'm sure you'll adjust the mix later. - Alex de Soto

real-time search which looks historically is not 'real-time' - Nick Halstead

How will realtime integrate with my daily habits? The benefit is not a firehose - it will be relevant to my immediate lifestyle needs. - Arnie Klaus

Agreed that Steve's audio is not level with others... would love to have it boosted just a bit. Please, Tina. - Jerry Schuman

let me know if Steve's audio gets better - Tina Chase Gillmor

Good afternoon. - Darren

the one thing I don't like about the Google Instant feature is it's 'whiting out' of 'socially unacceptable' words - and there are some serious issues that have come up with it .. - Xenophrenia

Jerry let me know if it's better - Tina Chase Gillmor

Are those FB "public" posts intended to be public? Or, is it people not knowing any better? - coldbrew

yep - Xenophrenia

much better - Jerry Schuman

AOK! - Darren

Yes. - Stephen Pickering

sound good fellas - sull

Much better Tina! - Alex de Soto

thanks for the audio heads-up everyone. Really appreciate your help - Tina Chase Gillmor

seesmic plugins = chrome tabs ;-) - sull

I believe organizing this information client-side doesn't scale. - Darren

I think in the convergence with interactive TV/Film, Home Hub/Living room etc... Loic's positioning on the right road..."personal foyer" interfaces with browser interactivity (transmedia story structures) and cloud social media creation - davidlee

You need to be able to make better decisions based on the data as a whole, not just within the context of a single user. - Darren

This is the approach of Flipboard and why it has significant advantages over a purely client-based solution. - Darren

Flipboard is a first-mover, don't be too distracted by it; it's not sustainable. See NYT /betaworks project. - coldbrew

I will filter by my needs. If a service provides a unique behavior interaction that fulfill my needs I'll use it...on the fly. - Arnie Klaus

Flipboard needs a better feedback loop regarding when it's updated. That is very unclear. - Jerry Schuman

Forget my mention of Flipboard as a product, the platform they're building is what's important. This is much what Cliqset is working on as well. - Darren

I'm at the dentist, sitting in the chair, the dentist is doing this, what should i do?.. - Arnie Klaus

coldbrew: don't be so sure about Flipboard. I have a new version coming "soon" and it's quite nice. They have a better team than Betaworks has put together too. - Robert Scoble

Public Media API http://www.poynter.org/column... - sull

I still say Steve Gillmor doesn't understand Flipboard. Or "Flipscam" as he puts it. - Robert Scoble

It will push until I aggregate. - Arnie Klaus

Robert, you have a small smudge on your camera lens btw - Tina Chase Gillmor

and the agnostic nature it is a very good message to send to interactive tv content creators who are working with integrated retail - davidlee

Flipboard is great for afterwork, relaxation mode, just like purusing a magazine. It's serendipitous, its not meant as a mission critical type presentation - Stephen Pickering

Stephen: exactly. - Robert Scoble

Tina: fixed - Robert Scoble

Scoble: fair enough. You have more insight than I do, but is it sustainable? True product vision is hard to find, but they have to continually innovate. - coldbrew

no lets do it later lol - Tina Chase Gillmor

I think paper.li is another great implementation. With really groomed, curated lists it rocks - Jerry Schuman

For reading Facebook on Flipboard, you miss so much. I want to see all my friends posts. I can't use Flipboard for that. With Twitter is is perfectly easy to browse through. More links and magazine style reading. - Kbug44

I love paper.li I wish my blog looked like that, presented like that - Stephen Pickering

Sustainability has to be incentive-response based. - Arnie Klaus

coldbrew: yes. They have a good pipeline of stuff that will come. - Robert Scoble

@loic - http://code.google.com/chrome... comment? - sull

either way, congrats to seesmic for a nice product. even if it's not my style. - sull

I think I missed it.. L( - Kevin Costain

Scoble: That sets them up as an acquisition target unless the founders are willing to hold out. - coldbrew

Robert's microphone looks like it's going to begin a mission to Mars after the show. Is that thing from the future? - Darren

I search scob... - Arnie Klaus

Google Instant's primary achievement is not experience but in efficiency and scale. Small sites have done this ajaxified search for years now. - sull

Google should sell top spots for each letter in the alphabet for each position as a side suggestion list next to current suggestion list. $$ - sull

I want to filter the instant results by "searcher type" (what academia searches, what business searches, etc.) not always by popularity. - Alex de Soto

sull: that makes no sense - coldbrew

Google have clearly stated that keyword frequency would fluctuate with this update - Nick Halstead

good seo gets you into the suggested search terms list. - sull

I 100% agree with Scoble - Danny is totally wrong - Nick Halstead

along with trending news content. - sull

It seems like SEO is trying to do the search engine's job - Stephen Pickering

I love when Danny and Scoble vigorously disagree - Tina Chase Gillmor

Google have said behaviour would be different - I find myself resulting in searching for different keywords - Nick Halstead

coldbrew - was a joke. - sull

I can't remember the last time I used one term for a search. - coldbrew

I hope this is going where I think I may be. - Darren

ffs - Danny shut up - cant cope with someone else arguing with his viewpoint as he is 'god' of SEO - Nick Halstead

It's meta data manipulation that is the issue. - Jerry Schuman

I think I need a fighting ring graphic or something - Tina Chase Gillmor

Now, SEO will be all about getting the first letter instead of a word. For instance what's Rei.com? They have the letter "R" on my instant - Stephen Pickering

Hlastead: show some respect. He never claimed to be a god. FFS - coldbrew

If Rosh Hosanah (sp) has "Ro" is that a real time type result? - Stephen Pickering

the first letter doesn't really matter though, as people aren't going to stop typing there - Kevin Marks

SEO is about being on first page of results. - sull

Because they have to keep with the other pimps ;-) - Xenophrenia

Most people do not delve deeper than that - sull

keep up - Xenophrenia

Yeah, your right, Kevin, I only stopped there because I was investigating. If I were normally searching, I wouldn't have stopped - Stephen Pickering

What about the fact that apps are starting to obfuscate the need for the general web? Let's talk about that movement and its impact on SEO. - Jerry Schuman

Sullivan and Scoble both have very interesting real world experiences that are helpful. - coldbrew

Ugh.. I can't get a decent stream here.. seems like Danny is trying to explain why the SEO industry is like the Body Massage industry. They can't get no respect.. :( - Kevin Costain

Danny is turning red. Tina: Can you dial down the R in the RGB. ;) - Alex de Soto

Soto: LOL - coldbrew

I am thoroughly enjoying reading this thread flying by even though I am not watching the broadcast right now! - Laura Norvig

Shall I go to Wikipedia? - Arnie Klaus

Where exactly does the Voodoo come in? :) - Kevin Costain

I think we all can agree a dispassionate discussion would be more helpful to all. - coldbrew

SEO - has become predominately spam - that 's what the problem is - Xenophrenia

A kinder, gentler, SEO. hehehhe - Stephen Pickering

How do I do good SEO for a good website. Good Content? - Arnie Klaus

sorry, but SEO is not that clever. Otherwise there wouldnt be so many bloody 'experts' - Nick Halstead

My own private SEO - sull

Fact of the matter, most SEO experts, ie Otto at The Search Agency chases the Google algorithm to better understand how it works. They do manipulate data to achieve a desired result. Top of page ranking. I don't know that you can consider that organic SEO. They look for ways to defeat new implementations. - Jerry Schuman

it's where the money is - will attract sharks every time - Xenophrenia

Most companies that hire for SEO are receiving help on content, writing, developing a social media strategy, and more. Not trying to be spammers or game the engines. - Kbug44

pagerank = inbound links, keywords, RSS, title optimization - Nick Halstead

I like what Blekko is doing, which I don't understand why Google doesn't implement, which is a more streamlined filtered search which will tend to bubble up interesting stuff to the top based on filters - Stephen Pickering

biggest hurdle is overcoming the giants in first page search results. often the better article is buried, sadly. - sull

@stephen agreed - I love the blekko interface, especially being able to se how all the inbound links + data are exposed public - Nick Halstead

good tummeling Kevin ;-) - Xenophrenia

Klaus: By being genuine about the industry your company is in, one will gain prominent SERP placement. At least in theory. - coldbrew

"Gaming Google" is not good marketing. - Alex de Soto

http://funnystories.blogspot.com/2002... - my son on this 8 years ago - Kevin Marks

you don't have to be an evil person to do evil things ... - Xenophrenia

talk about the move to app centricity and how it might change the world of SEO. - Jerry Schuman

Gillmor: Don't forget about the Boulder fire. - coldbrew

too short... as usual. What happened to our multi-hour shows! ;-) - Jerry Schuman

what the hell is up with my typing... geez - Jerry Schuman

Detroit, too. Google Instant is awesome - Da

sorry, missed comment. who needs blood? what happened? - sull

Yeah, I'm from Detroit. Steve has a brother in Boulder. All sad. The San Bruno fire is just minutes away from us. So scary - Tina Chase Gillmor

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