Gillmor Gang, Live Recording Session at 1:00PM PT. Participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
Who will be participating today?
- r Macdonald
Me, but I'm still on Strategy Room with Clayton Morris.
- Robert Scoble
Great! You are worth waiting for
- r Macdonald
whooooo :)
- Christopher Harris
Don't know if it is relevant to today's topic, but I would like to hear from Robert about his innovative roving live feed from SXSW with Leo Laporte.
- r Macdonald
Gillmor Gang Recording Session w/ John Borthwick, Seth Goldstein, Andrew Keen, Kevin Marks - http://building43.com/realtime
- Cliff Gerrish
I'm calling in now.
- Robert Scoble
r Macdonald: not too much to it, it's a borrowed pack from ustream that has a computer and six modems in the back to Sprint, ATT, Verizon. Worked great.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, we'll get you on in a second.
- Cliff Gerrish
OK, you're live.
- Cliff Gerrish
Cliff: I still am hearing hold music.
- Robert Scoble
Sorry just a sec.
- Cliff Gerrish
Now I'm online
- Robert Scoble
Is the hold music off?
- Cliff Gerrish
yes
- Robert Scoble
You're live now.
- Cliff Gerrish
Lady Gaga will keynote SXSW next year.
- Cliff Gerrish
@Cliff - I don't need another reason to not attend next year ;)
- Rob La Gesse
@Rob - Do you expect SXSW won't improve on this year then?
- Josh Chandler
@Josh - I am sure it will - but will it improve enough? Not sure of that.
- Rob La Gesse
@Rob - I hope it does. I want to go next year. :)
- Josh Chandler
How can Foursquare deliver a better keynote then Twitter did?
- Josh Chandler
I'll be back at SXSW next year - just not sure I will be there for 5 days again.
- Rob La Gesse
Twitter just got unlucky with the selected interviewer.
- Josh Chandler
Too little, too late for Twitter anywhere. Facebook has the audience and the data with Facebook Connect that Twitter will never have.
- Josh Chandler
How can you possibly predict a year ahead? When is it booked?
- Alex de Soto
@Alex - Yeah, you can't.
- Josh Chandler
You can predict. You just may not be right.
- Cliff Gerrish
Well, the benefit of being a pundit in technology is that things move so quickly you can't always be blamed for getting it wrong.
- Josh Chandler
BTW, I don't agree that's the right way of looking at it.
- Josh Chandler
Is Buzz the first Google product that ddn't beta?
- Jim Posner
Seems like Buzz *is* beta, just not labeled.
- Cliff Gerrish
Buzz seems rather beta
- Vezquex
:)
- Josh Chandler
I would count it as Beta as well.
- Josh Chandler
Page Index, Social Index, Operating system -- choose your borg.
- Cliff Gerrish
Are we supposed to be praising a product which was late to market and offers nothing that unique?
- Josh Chandler
Late to market shouldn't detract. It's here now.
- Vezquex
But, it's not worth publisher's time implementing it.
- Josh Chandler
the NYTimes would have a user account that now can know your Twitter ID - then you can share via twitter NYTimes items without leaving NYTimes
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@bear - Will that keep visitors at NYTimes longer?
- Josh Chandler
my hunch is that twitter is looking for "meat" to add to it's environment/toolset so that they can start charging for API support - that's my cynical view
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@bear - it's a possibilty
- Josh Chandler
@josh it will because it allows NYTimes to offer a single click "share" action - now you have to leave the page, got to the web interface of twitter, make your post, then go back
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@josh plus it could, and this is my guess, it could offer then a way of sharing the conversation thread of your post or of others who also shared the item
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I certainly hope your second suggestion would happen.
- Josh Chandler
so do I
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
It is interesting to have your social graph follow you from site to site. still getting used to it on Huffington Post.
- Jim Posner
everyone is trying to become the unified contact list for web 2.0
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
can you post the url in here?
- Jim Posner
Do you think that twitter will ever embrace comments and lift the 140 limit. Buzz may have forced them to enable this.
- Jim Posner
Twitter would have to rework their backend in a big way. Google came into Buzz already knowing how to scale because of GTalk IM experience
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I have a shared experience watching TV - http://bit.ly/idolfanatic - @ribbit phones your votes in for you
- Kevin Marks
Regarding TV innovation on near-horizon: @NovaSpivack latest (pre-launch) live TV tracker venture: LiveMatrix http://bit.ly/ch45DW
- r Macdonald
I bet the first 140 characters will be shown by default, with a "more" button to expand to full text
- Vezquex
off topic: Anyone know what software Steve is using to control the show? Mac or PC?
- Josh Haley
heck, I just deleted myself from foursquare because it was location specific noise that doesn't help me in my small town
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@josh - he is using a Tricaster HD - it's a custom PC TV switcher
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Thanks, bear
- Josh Haley
interesting stuff going on between intel, sony and cisco in the tv space.
- Jim Posner
Twitter has become the backchannel for any group event
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
The small screen will be the remote control for the large screen.
- Cliff Gerrish
Regarding new dawn of interactive TV: applying principles of Semantic Web to granular TV metadata (starting with time coded transcripts - Closed Captioning) to identify "entities" will allow significantly scaled discovery, related media & product recommendations as well as sync & async social media "conversations" Central to this vision is opening the metadata, currently being championed by independent media companies as pathfinders for big ol' media.
- r Macdonald
Comcast has the advantage that they have both the TV content but they are also big in the online realm with a lot of their users logging in to their accounts. The question will be if they have enough users who will login to the comcast.net site *and* watch tv
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
My current pet peeve is lack of 1GB bandwidth to the home and why Google is making a move into this area and not my local utility ala electricity.
- Jim Posner
Comcast also has Plaxo.
- Cliff Gerrish
I've had comcast for 11 years, and the only time I go to comcast.net is when it's broken
- Kevin Marks
Comcast also is pushing an evdo like item so you can view your streams while mobile.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
the "Google TV" (Google, Intel and Sony) collaboration is an important step towards realizing Interactive TV dream
- r Macdonald
I like the comcast iPhone app. Voice mail follows me around.
- Cliff Gerrish
@Kevin Marks - you should visit Comcast.net - if you have their DVR and/or Phone service - it's all controlllable from the account
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
SuperFeedr - it's a great way for consumers and publishers to enable realtime notifications of all kinds of events. Anything that can be carried using Activity Streams
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
what sort of "stream splicing" capability is Steve Gillmor missing?
- Vezquex
You can't mix in FriendFeed feeds into friendfeed unless you send them out and pull them back in.
- Cliff Gerrish
stream splicing will be possible only when Salmon Protocol is more mainstream IMO
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Yes, PSHB + Salmon is quite interesting.
- Cliff Gerrish
Google already supports RSS for incoming feeds
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
YouTube RSS support totally sucks.
- Rob La Gesse
stickybits.com is worth looking at
- r Macdonald
Friendfeed has lists, just unfortunately kept private. Here's one of mine: http://friendfeed.com/list...
- Vezquex
Thanks for another thought provoking show!
- r Macdonald
Nice show - thanks all!
- Rob La Gesse
@bear thanks for the mention. Indeed, we (Superfeedr) can help anyone consuming or producing feeds get into the realtime wagon!
- Julien
The TV discussion inspired me to finally contact Comcast and figure out how to get the the ondemand stuff online (their single signon is still a little buggy but better than when I gave up on it a couple years ago). One interesting thing: I'd been rewatching The Wire via ondemand through the cable box and have been waiting for them to release episodes past S2E6 there. Online I can see the whole of season 2, through ep 12.
- Amyloo