Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PDT

I'm waiting for the famous call. - Robert Scoble

I posted this to get ready for today's show: https://plus.google.com/u... about my first CES prediction. - Robert Scoble

hi there - Kevin Marks

Cool if Jobsworth makes a guest appearance, even a cameo. - clive boulton

Hey guys! Tina, it's your turn now. ACTION. - Nir Ben Yona

JP is not going to make it I'm afraid, clive. - Kevin Marks

Just before the first iPad was shown by Steve Jobs, Steve Ballmer showcased upcoming Tablets at CES, that were suppose to be released in that fall in partnership with HP. - Moe Glitz

You're not shitting. - Francine Hardaway

I think Tech Crunch is destroyed. I can tell it has completely changed. Softer, less interesting - Francine Hardaway

Hi Kevin:-) - Francine Hardaway

But now just as Apple is preparing the iPad 3, there is still no signs of a Microsoft Tablet? - Moe Glitz

Hi guys! - Daniel W. Crompton

I just got a WebOS Tablet, and I gave my KindleFire to my grandson - Francine Hardaway

TechCrunch has dissolved fast. - clive boulton

Arrington's post: http://uncrunched.com/2011... - Robert Scoble

Geekwire.com's taken over TC crown in Seattle - clive boulton

Techcrunch RIP! - Moe Glitz

Is JT Buzzing! - Moe Glitz

It depends on how you manage the acquisitions - Francine Hardaway

Sometimes acquisitions are the fastest way to destroy value (no idea why) - clive boulton

The problem is that Huffington Post was acquired for $300 million at same time that TC was bought for about $30 million. I could see this collision coming from 100 miles away. - Robert Scoble

Facebook recently brought Gowalla and just burried it! - Moe Glitz

Moe: I would have buried Gowalla too. In fact, I did. - Robert Scoble

are you guys doing the gang twice a week now every week? - Laura Norvig

Is it really the expense that's the issue? Windows 8 isn't released yet, is it? - Brian Hendrickson

that would be amazing, Laura; or at least do one Gillmor Gang and one News Gang - franzstehrn

Once a week, sorry. But sometimes we delay a show until Monday. - Robert Scoble

I'd buy a Windows 8 tablet -- it's exciting that their app-building APIs are Web based. It'll be fun to make apps compared to Java. - Brian Hendrickson

ah, I see, thanks Robert. - Laura Norvig

Have to say Azure has mojo since ScottGu took over: Nodejs Hadoop - clive boulton

Isn't Microsoft developing for iOS now? - Alex de Soto

They may have to develop a Office Enterprise Productivity Tablet - Moe Glitz

cliveb yeah Node on Metro would be fun - Brian Hendrickson

I'd rather have a WebOS tablet after the iPad. Awesome platform. - Nir Ben Yona

Laura... maybe - Tina Chase Gillmor

OneNote, SkyDrive, Kinectimals for iOS... all rehearsals for a Microsoft tablet? - Alex de Soto

they don't do anything - Tina Chase Gillmor

up and to the stage right - Kevin Marks

Kevin's right about MS law suites. Even mid-level employees changing jobs are nailed to strict, enforced non-competes. - clive boulton

Maybe Salesforce should develop an Enterprise based Tablet - Moe Glitz

the enterprise based tablet is the iPad at the moment - Kevin Marks

@brian - webOS had(has) nodejs. sweet. - clive boulton

cliveb i forgot about that -- no wonder devs are so enamored with it. I did see a cool "responsive" app for different screen sizes - built with a webos framework - Brian Hendrickson

wow I connect in late and I instantly get Scoble monitor envy - Charlie Isaacs

Governments still use MS Office. - Nir Ben Yona

Remember when Arrington wanted to develop a tablet? - Francine Hardaway

But Apple needs to brand the Enterprise on their iPad Platform - Moe Glitz

Everyone in health care is going to the iPad, whether there's an "enterprise" branded version or not - Francine Hardaway

I think there is actually a 2010 - Laura Norvig

is microsoft still in business ?? - studentforce

There's still a great demand for Excel and such. - Nir Ben Yona

crocodile tears for msft - Kevin Marks

I am running CP/M and HDOS on my Zenith Heathkit Z89. - Charlie Isaacs

kevin is crying over the death of office - Tina Chase Gillmor

CTOs like the Microsoft cloud. :( - Alex de Soto

people don't like change, obviously - Laura Norvig

ok. not true. some of its features are pretty good. spreadsheets, ppt - studentforce

FriendFeed never really did get @mentions working -- did it. G+ and FB and TW have it -- it's expected - Brian Hendrickson

Word is widely used. Most people I work with in the enterprise hate Google docs - Francine Hardaway

My wife still thinks she is running Wordstar (That's what she calls MSWord) - Charlie Isaacs

Office / Windows 8 stakes are really high, but metro delivers tablet exp. How can MS go wrong. - clive boulton

being able to work offline is still important for some people/situations - Laura Norvig

Very true Laura - Moe Glitz

its a commodity - studentforce

I write in MSWord (a lot of time on airplanes w/out wifi) and then publish to blog or pdf. I usually code in Eclipse or xCode console - Charlie Isaacs

I would be up the creek currently at home without having a full OS/Environment. So yeah, it's still very important. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy

offline I use TextWrangler or SubEthaEdit - Kevin Marks

Kevin does your editor also work as a signaling device? - Brian Hendrickson

Facts, Amazon already has a patent license from Microsoft...More facts...(as of july 2011: Office 2010 continues to be the fastest-selling version of Microsoft Office in history with over 100 million licenses sold since its release a year ago. - Stephen M

Can you invite Steve Ballmer onto the Show? - Moe Glitz

You guys are dreaming. You should live in my world. Small businesses use Word, email, and .ppt. They don't want to change. - Francine Hardaway

Sharepoint is like Yammer - Brian Hendrickson

Really depends on teh kind of Enterprise. Some businesses are still used to needing to format documents nicely and are used to doing that in word. - Laura Norvig

Sharepoint is your grandmother's attic -- where you go to store stuff you don't ever want to see again -- Benioff - Charlie Isaacs

Francine nailed it. - clive boulton

Francine: yes. - Robert Scoble

No -- Excel is - Brian Hendrickson

Mostly documents in small business. NO, Steve. - Francine Hardaway

Way to bring it back to reality, Francine! Although agile small businesses with younger staff tend to use cloud apps more. some work entirely with google apps. - Laura Norvig

QuickBooks? - Kevin Marks

they use email to send documents - Jerome Hughes

Small businesses aren't where you think they are - Francine Hardaway

Jerry, that's right! They attach word documents to email:-) - Francine Hardaway

...and there's MS Access, Project and Visio. They are very persistent in certain circles. - Alex de Soto

Microsoft Has A Dozen Billion Dollar Businesses - Stephen M

I'd like to know who (profession) uses what at different age: 50+ uses ? 15-20 yrs uses ? 20 - 25 yrs uses ? 25 - 40 yrs? 40 - 50 yrs? - studentforce

Even though at Alcatel-Lucent we have moved to a Jive Platform people still use the MSOffice tools and store interesting docs and ppts in Jive Enterprise - Charlie Isaacs

OFFICE is stable - Francine Hardaway

we are a mid-size nonprofit using outlook, sharepoint, ms-office. we all hate sharepoint and smaller teams use Basecamp instead. - Laura Norvig

Unless you are in tech - Francine Hardaway

how many happy Sharepoint users are there? People are basically "living with it" - Charlie Isaacs

if you're still preparing documents for print a lot, sure, you end up in office - Kevin Marks

Charlie: right. - Robert Scoble

Microsoft Sold 5 Million Seats Of Office 365 In Less Than Three Months and 90% of those are small businesses - Stephen M

do you like it, or do you just live with it? - Kevin Marks

Charlie, it's scary how awful it is, really. Only use is version control/checkout. - Laura Norvig

Small biz likes keeping a firm grip. WinOffice over WebSocial tools - clive boulton

it doesn't matter that Sharepoint is lame -- it's cheap and IT can install it behind the firewall, that makes it important. - Brian Hendrickson

if goog docs was more robust people would jump fast. No loyalty to MS like there used to be - Tina Chase Gillmor

Stephen: and Box.net has something like 8 million ustomers and is doubling every 11 months. - Robert Scoble

site licensing makes it an all or nothing decision, need to mount a major project to save anything - Jerome Hughes

sharepoint is really bad when people try to use it for knowledge management...trying to store docs that can solve customer issues in there - Charlie Isaacs

E-mail will persist as long as there are lawyers. Where else will people place those lengthy legal disclaimers? - Alex de Soto

When does the 2010 Web arrive Rob :D - David Lloyd

Tina, yep. I've tried to switch to google docs but there are bugs, load issues, and lack of complexity in formatting tools. - Laura Norvig

I used to know how to format thinsg in word - Kevin Marks

these days I write HTML or code instead - Kevin Marks

Google apps just suck, even LAPD is dumping Google apps gmail - Stephen M

Tina: That's true, but maybe from the pricing point. Most people would probably use Office if it wasn't so pricey. - Nir Ben Yona

Office is still huge in Overseas Markets like Africa and the Middle East - Moe Glitz

eg I made http://xmaslabels.com to avoid having to deal with bloody Word tables and mail merge - Kevin Marks

There's QuickOffice Pro for the iPad. That will keep Office in use for a while. - Alex de Soto

sometimes when my kids write papers they cant do it on Google docs BUT teachers dont iinsist on Word any more because Google is free - Tina Chase Gillmor

sharepoint is not cheap next to open source content management - Jerome Hughes

Prezi is great for presentations. - Nir Ben Yona

I use Google Docs because I travel so much. When I work with an enterprise client, they want me to send a Word doc because they want to download the doc to read when THEY are traveling and offline. And when I work with small businesses and startups, they don't have time to learn any new software so they use Office for Mac:-) - Francine Hardaway

Microsoft DID NOT announce Office the ipad.. it was a rumor..why are you reporting that as fact - Stephen M

iWork apps - Jerome Hughes

Prezi is pretty cool, agree Nir - Charlie Isaacs

I like Prezi - Kevin Marks

i love Prezi. - Robert Scoble

it's a bit weird on iPad, but works OK on web - Kevin Marks

MS Incentives! IT admin shops serving smb/sme make careers and money upgrading servicing office. Make nothing with Goog docs - clive boulton

Outlook Express is part of Office - Francine Hardaway

So despite all this, why was latest version of Office biggest selling version of all time - David Lloyd

Huge sales - David Lloyd

Beginners using Prezi tend to make the audience motion sick - Francine Hardaway

true Clive - Tina Chase Gillmor

inertia, David. - Kevin Marks

Francine there is no Outlook Express - Stephen M

I need to go in a couple of minutes - Kevin Marks

So "dying" products have inertia? - David Lloyd

+Steven M oops! - Francine Hardaway

OneNote for the iPad arrived on December 13, did someone already say that? - Charlie Isaacs

I said it was on iPad, but I haven't tried it - Kevin Marks

ok Kevin. I just let Steve know - Tina Chase Gillmor

Wonder if they will discuss Winer's post about Apps - David Lloyd

David: Momentum is hard to change. - Robert Scoble

http://informationweek.com/news... - Charlie Isaacs

iPad isn't the word processing tool. - Francine Hardaway

THat's YOU - Francine Hardaway

one day...real soon...your iPad will be your office computer AND your desktop phone - Charlie Isaacs

the liberating effect of constraints - Jerome Hughes

how can you "work" with an ipad? the app model is like Dos..one thing at a time.. - Stephen M

iAWriter is a beautiful iPad app for writers. - Alex de Soto

Everyone I know is still trying to find a good word processing tool for the iPad. - Francine Hardaway

We visit websites on our computers and use APPS on our ipads.. - David Lloyd

Exactly. The entire government offices in Israel run Microsoft Office. - Nir Ben Yona

Who cares about new apps for Windows... just go to a website - Stephen M

I've tried iAWriter and Blogsy, and Pages. I end up drafting in Evernote and then uploading to WP - Francine Hardaway

How about Skype? - Brian Costello

starting with ways to convert to and from office documents - Jerome Hughes

Yup. I use Evernote for text processing most. - Francine Hardaway

http://www.zdnet.com/blog... - Kevin Marks

If I am online I write in WP, but that's dangerous on the iPad - Francine Hardaway

Skype bundled with Kinnect on Live Office could be useful - Moe Glitz

Nir Ben Yona, its a good thing... LA tried going to Google Apps, but they have had to drop it it sucked so bad - Stephen M

good one Kevin - Charlie Isaacs

does prezi let you author on iPd now? - Kevin Marks

OK, I'm gone - Kevin Marks

Cld be in Airplanes disconnected Cloud apps doc experience suks. (html5 local storage ~) - clive boulton

Francine -- can't you use an iPad app that hooks to your WP? - Brian Hendrickson

...but not forgotten - Tina Chase Gillmor

like MarsEdit? - Brian Hendrickson

By the way, I loaded a new app today for windows... try MetroTwit..its beautiful, and awesome too - Stephen M

Brian yes. But I write a lot on airplanes without wifi and in conferences with crummy wifi, and I need to draft offline more than you think - Francine Hardaway

Not the cheap wine, right? - Charlie Isaacs

@Stephen: Learning the hard way ;) - Nir Ben Yona

Francine - a well-designed MarsEdit-a-like would handle offline mode -- not sure if that exists tho - Brian Hendrickson

This show sounds like a bunch of Microsoft competitors complaining about them... - Stephen M

Kinnect with Sharepoint could become a Minority Report type of Office - Moe Glitz

Great video by me about Rypple: http://youtu.be/fcDHdATSjaQ - Robert Scoble

anyone tried Microsoft Lync? - Stephen M

I want to work with the Wookey! (hint nudge wink) - clive boulton

I am wondering about how this will affect the SAP/Salesforce relationship... - Charlie Isaacs

My company is a huge Microsoft partner, gives me more reason to bash on them to make them better Stephen M - Charlie Isaacs

I think eventually people will run their own cloud software the way they adopted running their own PCs in the '80s. it's the mainframe era of the cloud. - Brian Hendrickson

you can get a Windows Phone for 99 cents :) - Stephen M

I went to the real-time crunch-up, stood at a Mic and asked Jack Dorsey why Twitter wasn't decentralized like e-mail. he said the users didn't care if it was decentralized. - Brian Hendrickson

Robert is the Realtime CNN! - Moe Glitz

Nodejs yes! - clive boulton

node + xmpp! - Brian Hendrickson

Hey Stephen if we wanted Microsoft ads we would go here: "The worst Microsoft ads of all time" http://www.guardian.co.uk/technol... - Charlie Isaacs

federated. - Francine Hardaway

the problem with OStatus is it's like Atom -- a splinter - Brian Hendrickson

Moe why denegrate RealTime by calling it CNN.. no one watches CNN - Stephen M

there's been a lot of good real-time tech invented the past couple years -- Salmon, Pubsubhubbub - Brian Hendrickson

My point was to say that Realtime kills CNN - Moe Glitz

that stuff can work with RSS too -- - Brian Hendrickson

Realtime is the future of News - Moe Glitz

That's true. - Francine Hardaway

@Robert: Soooooo True! You nailed it. - Nir Ben Yona

+1 Robert - Charlie Isaacs

And I love the idea that developers wanted to build Kinect apps and the mobile platform takes no advantage of that - Francine Hardaway

but he totally backtracked on it. - Laura Norvig

Yes, I thought it was awesome, but the media nearly drove him under - Francine Hardaway

MS has enough resources where they can retain their old style legacy thinking and create a new division with "new style thinking" and just let the old appendage wither and go away on its own - Charlie Isaacs

Microsoft is doing so bad with developers they can't sell their developer tools...oh wait, its a billion dollar business thats up 11% year over year - Stephen M

Reed may be inline to succeed Ballmer (but up in the air now) - clive boulton

Someone needs to replace Steve Ballmer fast - Moe Glitz

Stephen: Box.net doubled in the same year. WHich business would you rather have? - Robert Scoble

it's not like MS is going to crash and burn, but if they don't move forward, what are they? - Tina Chase Gillmor

why do you really need email if you have threaded conversation tools? - Laura Norvig

Microsoft had a record sales/revenue year..why replace him - Stephen M

Have a wonderful holiday everybody - Francine Hardaway

He is not looking forward - Moe Glitz

Great show - Moe Glitz

Regardless $$ Ballmer still needs a cloudy successor. - clive boulton

good pt Tina, also, what is their dev growth rate vs. Apple and Adroid? I paid my $99 for xcode dev without hesitation, but I don't buy ms dev licenses any more, only at my company - Charlie Isaacs

Today you should thank me, as well for the annoying small business insights - Francine Hardaway

Good show thanks -- where do I pay my $5? - Brian Hendrickson

Why pay to dev for a phone? - Stephen M

Great show #cheers - Nir Ben Yona

Thank you, Francine. :-) - Debi Jones

+1 for Robert. Hi Debi!!!! - Francine Hardaway

you guys are all great, thanks for the exchange! :) - Charlie Isaacs

Lovely time. If there's no show next week...have a great holiday! - Alex de Soto

Happy Holidays everyone! - Debi Jones

By the way, why isn't there a chat room? its on ustream?? - Stephen M

Good to see SFDC pick up coach Wookey. - clive boulton

call LEO!! - Brian Hendrickson

They won't notice you - Francine Hardaway

Leo as in Twit? - Stephen M

thanks francine for the annoying small business insights - Steve Gillmor

yeah gillmorgang was hosted there in 2008 i think - Brian Hendrickson

ahhh.... no - Tina Chase Gillmor

Thanks everyone. - Robert Scoble

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I think Microsoft avoiding CES is a mistake, and seems to be based on the cost to have a keynote speaker. #gillmorgang - Zennie Abraham

I brought the first live stream to the NFL Draft in 2007. NFL copied it in 2008. #gillmorgang - Zennie Abraham

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