GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
Laura Norvig,
Robert Scoble,
Kevin Costain,
Tina Chase Gillmor,
lily Walcott,
Nick Morgan,
clive boulton,
Simon Tennant,
and
Jerome Hughes
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- Simon Tennant
We're on!
- Kevin Costain
Yep, Sat morning on the Aus east coast!
- Hilary Talbot
Sweet! Great group.
- Francine Hardaway
Mr. Farber- your take on The Daily's dimise please
- Da
Please don't talk about Mcafee, Please don't talk about Mcafee haha
- Kevin Costain
hellooooooo!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
IDC says they will eventually get 12% of tablet share
- Francine Hardaway
Welcome back Tina. Last week was quite a disaster:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Question: What about the idea of killing the Windows brand name? Would MS have been better off with Windows 8 Metro as a separate OS?
- Kevin Costain
Great summary about Microsoft's decline by Doc.
- Simon Tennant
Also, if Windows 8 is doing so badly (we all know it is), why is everyone in every TV show seemingly using Windows 8? haha
- Kevin Costain
Has Robert used Socl?
- Moe Glitz
In defense of Steve Ballmer, changing the culture is work in progress http://cliveboulton.com/post...
- clive boulton
MS has some deal with Southwest airlines. They are demo-ing the Surface in airports. Huge showing.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
China Mobile's deal with Nokia Windows Phone contributed to Apple's share dip
- Da
I don't know a single enterprise that would even think of using windows phones/tablets. *IF* they do standardise on a phone, it's Blackberry (and most staff will then carry their own "modern" phone at the same time).
- Simon Tennant
Samsung builds oil tankers, and they're also the top smartphone maker in China
- Da
Are you guys going to talk about Google+ Communities?
- Kevin Bryan
Robert's link is not broadcasting quality
- Moe Glitz
Sorry, I'm in London.
- Robert Scoble
Moe: yes, I have. It's crap (Microsoft Socl).
- Robert Scoble
Robert's connection was fine, then it fell off the cliff. Trying to remedy.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hi back Francine
- Tina Chase Gillmor
back-fitting enterprise for ambient computing era... wearable computing. graph database. realtime.
- clive boulton
I'm so bored listening to all this talk about Microsoft. MSWord is a product I have to use with clients, and every damn time I open it, I have to force quit it after a few hours
- Francine Hardaway
Francine: I agree with you.
- Robert Scoble
Boring.
- Robert Scoble
i'm keeping my xp desktop for a while, works great with my nexus
- Da
I agree too -- that's the problem. It's still there in a big way. What is interesting?
- John Taschek
Anybody see Colbert's Live interview with Eric Schmidt at @Google Talks today? It was great.
- Alex de Soto
I agree, Microsoft doesn't factor into my life much anymore either. It used to. It used to control the tech industry. now it doesn't but still it is surprising. They are struggling to become relevant again.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Da: The Daily? Why would I use that instead of Facebook or Flipboard?
- Robert Scoble
or Google Reader. it was a non-starter
- Da
@Alex, thanks for the heads up on that interview. Is it recorded somewhere?
- Laura Norvig
Nexus 4 + T-Mobile non-phone subisidy = hopefully kill phone subsidy and carrier lock-in
- Da
would open sourcing google reader make a difference?
- Jim Posner
cool stuff is Google Glass
- Da
Jim: no, it's too late.
- Robert Scoble
Steve is leaving me for Siri... I'm pretty sure of that. She always sets his alarm clocks for him. She's so nice that way. ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Apple is too much into how 'thin' their latest products are. They are more of a Design Company than a Tech Company nowadays
- Moe Glitz
Laura: Assuming it will be posted here later: http://www.youtube.com/user...
- Alex de Soto
demise of GR is sad...cautionary tale for Google?
- Jim Posner
Switching between stateful windows office and fluid web apps feels like a most awkward ux
- clive boulton
any data of demise of Google Reader? I use it more than Facebook
- Da
A facially hairy edition of The Gang. :->>
- Denise Howell
Wow, Doc talks about exactly what we are trying to build at buddycloud. But can describe it so much better than us!
- Simon Tennant
Thanks Doc. I'm going to watch the recording of this later and try and bring your last comments into how we describe bc.
- Simon Tennant
Ward Cunningham is up to exciting things http://wardcunningham.github.com/
- clive boulton
great article on Google Reader from the Atlantic in case you missed it http://www.theatlantic.com/technol...
- Jim Posner
What about using IFTTT for apps to talk to each other?
- Nick Morgan
We need Open Source Promiscuous Data
- Moe Glitz
actually Buzzfeed did the deep dive on GR http://www.buzzfeed.com/robf4...
- Jim Posner
twitter keeps growing or jumps the shark
- clive boulton
so collaboration is not happening
- Tina Chase Gillmor
couldn’t care less about communities on Google Reader. Its text RSS lets me quickly plow through my feeds, starring articles I go in-depth later
- Da
Saying Twitter is the to glue is like saying AOL keywords were a great system to find content on the internet.
- Simon Tennant
Simon: I agree, but do we have a better system yet? No.
- Robert Scoble
hmmm, Twitter didnt invite me to their holiday party ;-(
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert: were working hard on it. github.com/buddycloud
- Simon Tennant
Is Twitter still a acquisition target or have they grown too big
- Jim Posner
Tina: I didn't get invited either. Either that or I trashed the invite automatically. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Twitter's ever higher walls sucks
- Da
Jim: pretty big at this point. Apple could still swallow. Who else?
- Robert Scoble
the internet will treat Twitter's walls as damage
- Da
I dare say Microsoft...but they haven't done a bet the business move in a very long time
- Jim Posner
speaking of MS..finally got a web browser on my xbox...10 years late
- Jim Posner
it's a WhatsupApp vs Facebook Messenger
- Da
Facebook apparently keen on acquiring Whatsapp
- Moe Glitz
I missed John T. chugging something. Think is might be rum and coke today ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Facebook Messenger sign-up without an account, just phone number is FB's attack vs WhatsupApp
- Da
Rum and coke -- haven't had one of those in 20 years! Good idea
- John Taschek
any iPad mini owners out there? wondering if it gets any use
- Jim Posner
Daughters and I have been using WhatsApp for two years. International :-) that's who uses it.
- Francine Hardaway
Yes, we are due for a night at the bar, John.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Once Upon Time In The Internet
- Moe Glitz
more silos, great
- Da
someone throw out a name for today's show please.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Is Google plus still a thing...or is it head the way of the Wave?
- Jim Posner
I still use Google Readeri
- Francine Hardaway
Google Plus is way better than wave.
- Robert Scoble
Time for another Bear Hug Camp?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
What'sapp Doc
- Moe Glitz
Tina: Unhappy People
- John Taschek
So it is all about eyeballs
- Francine Hardaway
Seriously, John. Again time for the bar!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Right. All the eyeball companies failef
- Francine Hardaway
drink up everytime twitter is uttered
- Da
Robert's got the right idea. We all need some liquid joy.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Twitter has made the fundamental mistake of thinking traffic owned is more valuable than the network
- Keith Teare
it represents fear-driven small thinking
- Keith Teare
Is Apple Maps gonna be successful?
- Da
"Locked in the Trunk"
- clive boulton
Saying Google+ is way better than Wave I think shows a lack of understanding of Wave. It's kind of like saying a cocktail party is way better than a business meeting.
- Brian Sullivan
Leaving Twitter isn't the issue. Twitter will monetize you worse than if they had a platform approach (Robert)
- Keith Teare
who was lock in AOL's trunk?
- Da
Di he say "locked in the trunk with the Pope"?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
amen
- Da
Yes! :-)
- Robert Scoble
The Revolution Will Be Tweeted
- Moe Glitz
cliveb and Robert named the show for you Tina: "Locked in The Trunk."
- Alex de Soto
Instagram's action against twitter seems silly to me - seems they were doing a good job getting new people from twitter, not the other way around.
- Hilary Talbot
We going round in 'Circles' again
- Moe Glitz
Locked in the trunk FTW!
- Francine Hardaway
they're talking about us
- Jim Posner
We have a winner "Locked in the Trunk"
- Tina Chase Gillmor
we the noise
- Alex de Soto
Communities are a topic specific moderated newsgroup. The key is moderated.
- Brian Sullivan
Communities is like groups on LinkedIn and it will devolve to marketing and job hunting
- Francine Hardaway
the masses are asses problem
- Da
old timers may remember The Well
- Jim Posner
Francine: exactly.
- Robert Scoble
Not bad Moe
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Da: exactly.
- Robert Scoble
Not 'Whatsapp Doc' Tina
- Moe Glitz
I was on The Well -- it was very interesting for a short period of time
- John Taschek
Someone needs to show Windows the Door
- Moe Glitz
We Are the Noise is also a good title for the show -- or a post
- John Taschek
Is there a gated community for thoughtful people or is that a oxymoron
- Jim Posner
Windows 8, 9 is a bet on developer demographics. Native javascript apps?
- clive boulton
"Locked In The Trunk with The Noise" ;)
- Alex de Soto
Windows 8 use in Steam already passed OS X
- Da
Still trying to get my mind around Bill Murray as FDR
- Jim Posner
Sometimes things sell but they are "failures" in the sense they do not move the ball forward, are not innovative, not interesting
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Twitter is "partnering" with The Pope?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Locked In The Trunk like choir boys with the priests (coda - that's enterprise software)
- clive boulton
Even the Royal Foetus is on Twitter
- Moe Glitz
no, you're even more excited about Google Glass
- Da
Robert have you bought a IPad mini? I am pondering it but didn't run out
- Francine Hardaway
Da: true, but that's a few months away for developers.
- Robert Scoble
Francine: I don't have one yet. I want one.
- Robert Scoble
I have a Fitbit, a FuelBand and a Basis ordered:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Steve likes his, of course, Francine
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Have to find a family member who wants my big iPad for Xmas:-(
- Francine Hardaway
Waiting for the Retina iPad Mini
- Moe Glitz
Francine: I have Fitbit and Basis ordered.
- Robert Scoble
I love my iPad Mini. Thought I'd hate the screen resolution but don't. Light and extremely portable.
- Alex de Soto
Moe: that's what I was thinking, but then...
- Francine Hardaway
Haven't heard much from Jason Calacanis...he must be reinventing himself again
- Jim Posner
Moe: I think that might be a while. Apple wants to keep costs down.
- Robert Scoble
Okay, Alex
- Francine Hardaway
MS moving more to mobile enterprise with Windows 9. Maybe at work, we'll move to Windows 10 straight from Windows XP, which we just got last year, from 2000
- Da
Jim: Calacanis has a kid now and he's doing a variety of conferences.
- Robert Scoble
Daughter desperately wants a mini
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Very true Robert
- Moe Glitz
I gotta leave. Fun show, thanks for joining us!
- Robert Scoble
In other news, I have all the devices but my sofa fell apart last week #values
- Francine Hardaway
Twitter's swimming against the stream.
- clive boulton
thanks to allllll!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
That was one of the best Gillmor Gangs ever. Great conversation!
- Simon Tennant