Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PST participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
Dave Martin,
Dr. Apps,
Eric - Final Countdown,
Stephen Pickering,
Robert Scoble,
Alex de Soto,
Ankush Narula,
and
Zato Gibson
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Like to hear observations on Twitter photo & thoughts on if Twitter Photo meta-data sets presages long-delayed Twitter Annotations
- r Macdonald
hello there
- Kevin Marks
not annotations, nope
- Kevin Marks
I am hanging out waiting for the call. Sorry, just missed it.
- Robert Scoble
Now live?
- Robert Scoble
Yes
- Stephen Pickering
iCloud
- Alex de Soto
Yeah, why demo it a year in advance? Dumb
- Stephen Pickering
because Apple is showing Lion next week, that's why
- Kevin Marks
Yeah, but when will Lion ship? I like how Apple tends to not announce things until they are ready to ship
- Stephen Pickering
Developers get it next week
- Kevin Marks
Apple will be the first trillion dollar company. No question
- Stephen Pickering
Microsoft has the Xbox. They have tremendous app potential.
- Darren
iCloud anyone?
- Kevin Marks
Chump change. Apple can buy them if need be
- Stephen Pickering
sounds like turntable.fm
- Kevin Marks
Darren: I think MIcrosoft is totally screwing up by not using Xbox brand.
- Robert Scoble
Now Scoble is speaking steve's language
- Tina Chase Gillmor
How much do you think Apple will charge?
- Stephen Pickering
they already charge $100/year for iDisk
- Kevin Marks
Apple TV "just a hobby" --- Steve Jobs
- Alex de Soto
time is the fourth dimension
- Jerome Hughes
Any expectations for Google TV Vs Apple TV?
- r Macdonald
He's talking about string theory
- Stephen Pickering
r Macdonald: Google TV is $300. Enough said. DOA.
- Robert Scoble
Until Super Symmetry pops out of Geneva I won't believe there are 11 dimensions
- Stephen Pickering
Mason was using the Gillmor silence technique at D9
- Kevin Marks
Robert, want to comment on the exceptional reaction to your Quora question: Which tech startups currently (June 2011) need and deserve angel funding?
- r Macdonald
Sure! I loved it. Lots of startups are struggling for attention.
- Robert Scoble
Apple's up 34x since I sold mine at $10
- Kevin Marks
Ouch, Kevin. I know. I bought Baidu a few years ago after making 50% and since then it's gone up 1500%
- Stephen Pickering
Showing up late - is the stream on? I am timing out on building43.com
- Richard
Yes it's on
- Stephen Pickering
I do think Apple made a mistake and left a tiny opening by dissing flash
- Stephen Pickering
I'm sure Kevin wants to bring up Schema.org. ;)
- Darren
Asus
- Stephen Pickering
That's right, I meant Acer, thanks John
- Stephen Pickering
Any thoughts on the Gmail (&other mail server) spear phishing attacks?
- r Macdonald
Why did they diss Google's 100 million?
- Stephen Pickering
Apple is the best distribution channel for record companies.
- Alex de Soto
Apple has delivered lots of revenue to the labels
- Kevin Marks
Cheaper devices draw cheap customers. Apple devices draw consumers with deeper pockets.
- Alex de Soto
No, Illinois, I think
- Stephen Pickering
California can't do it. It's anti constitutional, Commerce Clause
- Stephen Pickering
Apple + Square??
- Zato Gibson
I would love to hear from Kevin about Schema.org
- r Macdonald
Prediction: iCloud will come out with a Social Network to take on Facebook?
- Stephen Pickering
It's interesting how the room goes silent when Steve talks. Everyone's baffled.
- Darren
Darren: heh.
- Robert Scoble
twitter iOS integration was rumoured
- Kevin Marks
Tantek & Kevin, what do you think of the Schema.org consortium?
- r Macdonald
we think they're missing the point
- Kevin Marks
Kevin, Tantek: Do you see a difference between how Schema.org was developed versus how Bradfitz & BSlatkin defined the initial version of (edit) PubSubHubbub? I don't.
- Darren
What did McClure say? "Open is for losers."
- Stephen Pickering
Webfinger was blaine in public, but PuSH
- Kevin Marks
But if disk storage is halving in price every 12 months, doesn't that answer Steve's argument?
- Stephen Pickering
The bits!
- Darren
the difference is that PuSH welcomed development and discussion, and schema.org explictly excludes that
- Kevin Marks
"Google, Bing and Yahoo! are managing schema.org on an ongoing basis. As appropriate, we invite participation from major consumers and producers of structured data on the web."
- Kevin Marks
Discussion beyond their mailing list?
- Darren
We'll rent access to the bits. We will not own the bits.
- Alex de Soto
I sure hope they don't screw up the cover art.
- Alex de Soto
So, since all this infrastructure is being built out for distribution, will this be a new golden age for content?
- Stephen Pickering
*silence*
- Darren
Stephen: I think so.
- Robert Scoble
Stephen: the problem is finding the good new stuff.
- Robert Scoble
Alex: why would Apple screw up the cover art?
- Robert Scoble
Who will be the new Trust Agents to tell us what is the good stuff?
- Stephen Pickering
we all will be each others' trust agents - turntable.fm shows that
- Kevin Marks
The vast majority of Android owners do not know they're Android owners.
- Darren
Android is the default phone now, true, but they do put up android branding in stores
- Kevin Marks
But IMO that's a big part of the problem. Look how long it took us to get to ActivityStreams 1.0.
- Darren
Open standards move slowly. If you want to compete with Facebook and closed systems you need more agility. I think schema.org was a good move to get something out there that implementors can use and the community can evolve.
- Darren
the community can't evolve it
- Kevin Marks
thats what they need to fix
- Kevin Marks
I wonder if they'll change the language to make it more flexible.
- Darren
where do we knock on schema.org door?
- r Macdonald
Supporting free speech means allowing anti-free speech advocates to speak their mind.
- Darren
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011... signed by Ramanathan Guha
- Kevin Marks
Not so.
- Darren
What's John drinking?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
rum & coke in a bottle
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yeah, RSSCloud did well. :)
- Darren
It's hard for Kevin to speak highly of Dave Winer... since he blocked him on Twitter... (and me)
- Ankush Narula
oh Dave blocked me too. years ago
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Dave unblocked me. :-)
- Robert Scoble
80 or 400?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
cooking on all cylnders? is that when you wrap meat in tinfoil and put it next the engine?
- Kevin Marks
cat disparate to get back into the studio. At the door crying
- Tina Chase Gillmor
ooops
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert, just checked to see if Dave Winer unblocked me. Answer: nope. Still blocked
- Tina Chase Gillmor
thanks everyone. Nice show. Great feel. Lots of smile and laughter
- Tina Chase Gillmor