GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
AJ Batac,
Naor Mark,
Nir Ben Yona,
manielse (Mark Nielsen),
John Taschek,
Tina Chase Gillmor,
Keith Teare,
Robert Scoble,
and
clive boulton
liked this
Here
- Keith Teare
If it wasn't for the British Isles, Gillmor and Paul Ryan wouldn't have any music to listen to
- Kevin Marks
hello all
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hi Tina, happy Friday!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
oops, JUST published our TC page. Forgot. My bad
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hey Tina. Nice to be able to watch live for a change. Makes such a difference.
- Amyloo
Intel in a world of hurt if MSFT pulls off the Kobayashi Maru
- clive boulton
GREAT to have you Amyloo
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I guess I'm just use to the way I switch between apps in Android.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Even server processors swapping to low 'arm' power
- clive boulton
Robert, wondering how airplay works in the workplace. Are most visitors able to use it? I'd think ... probably?
- Amyloo
H-E-L-L-O
- Nir Ben Yona
most people r not in the apple ecosystem, for more people it's a mix of Android phones, XBoxes, Windows machines
- Da
Hi everyone!
- Robert Scoble
90 percent of context is sequential - http://cloudblog.salesforce.com/2012...
- John Taschek
Da: agreed. But then in enterprises I'm seeing a HUGE move to iOS devices. Procter and Gamble just bought tens of thousands of iPads, for instance.
- Robert Scoble
Would like to see more syncing between devices, esp. stuff like audiobooks -- pick up where you left off on the other device.
- Amyloo
the way kindle app syncs across devices is nice. Twitter showing you all the same dm's over and over on each one now looks lame
- Kevin Marks
Seems like more of your profile/apps need to move outside of the platform and more in the cloud so we aren't tired to a single ecosystem for streamless moving between devices.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Kevin: agreed.
- Robert Scoble
Yes, Kevin's example is ideal if expanded to other use cases.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Tine - you're off air on building 43
- Roger Shepherd
everyone sees the stream ok right now?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
No video seemed to have dropped.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
when iPads are getting out there at 80 or so million per quarter like PC's, then ok
- Da
I dont' know why trying to fix
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Still off for me even after refresh
- Amyloo
Off Air over here.
- Nir Ben Yona
neither Building 43 nor Ustream is working for me
- Roger Shepherd
Bummer. The Gillmors have been having problems with the streaming. Stay tuned.
- Robert Scoble
Must be the new high-bandwidth connection the Gillmors have
- Roger Shepherd
Robert, arrange a conf call with Rocky, Tina? Discuss Tricaster for GG live @ http://www.siliconvalley-codecamp.com/
- clive boulton
cliveb: email me. [email protected]
- Robert Scoble
can't understand keith
- Kevin Marks
trying to get stream up
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The point I was making is that apples restrictions about access to sensors and transports severely limits developers
- Keith Teare
my profile/apps/music/files/etc have been in Google's cloud for a while now, and it's great
- Da
Tina - we up!
- Roger Shepherd
You're on
- Naor Mark
Stream is now working
- Johannes Siemers
@Taschek:Fast adoption is predicated on two ideas: (1) Changeless adoption: that the product is either very quick to learn and use - and that it does not disrupt the incumbent process a user performs to achieve a result (this is agent-oriented), or (2) Disproportionate change: where a user needs to learn a new process or master a device in order to create an end-result that is far disproportionate in gains from the incumbent method (this is results-oriented).
- Chien-Yu Lin
lift not lyft?
- Kevin Marks
Just tested my bandwidth 60 meg in/10 meg out
- Keith Teare
I actually don't mind most ads that follow me around. At least so far it's always been something I'm fairly interested in buying and I might want a reminder.
- Amyloo
I could use some good habits
- Tina Chase Gillmor
http://itunes.apple.com/app... Lift app.
- Robert Scoble
it's when they still do it after you've bought it that it gets really annoying
- Kevin Marks
android version of lift?
- Kevin Marks
the more Likes I do on Facebook, seems the more relevants the ads are
- Da
Da: the more relevant EVERYTHING is.
- Robert Scoble
wow lots of technical problems today. I hate that
- Tina Chase Gillmor
gah, my skype has gon over to having mute manually again
- Kevin Marks
like google voice?
- Kevin Marks
Chien-Yu - absolutely. What's your Twitter address and G+ profile?
- John Taschek
So glad I saw Robert say that the other day
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Robert's threatening an Ayn Rand-like strike ;-)
- Amyloo
@Taschek: Twitter & G+: chienyulin (my profile picture will be three wolves "talking": 1 wolf is barking; 1 wolf is listening while covering the eyes of the 3rd wolf). Unfortunately, not a big presence on those two. Mostly on Facebook now. Yourself?
- Chien-Yu Lin
G+'s gulch
- Kevin Marks
80 apple / 20 android among techies, 20 apple / 80 android in the rest of the world
- Da
lol kevin
- Amyloo
come to think of it, isn't that app.net's appeal?
- Kevin Marks
john.taschek is G+ and jtaschek is Twitter. Facebook is surprisingly John Taschek
- John Taschek
lift conference is in switzerland not sweden
- nchenga
yup, sorry. I should have gotten it right since I have a Lift poster on my wall.
- Robert Scoble
Steve fixed Keith's audio very well. Sounds great now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Da - maybe true but the apple ones are spending 90% of the $
- Keith Teare
@Taschek: Thanks
- Chien-Yu Lin
hypercard?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Haven't we gone through this iOS vs Android battle before? Deja-vu
- Moe Glitz
/me pours one out for hypercard
- Kevin Marks
Unification of Chrome and device: http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11...
- John Taschek
@Kevin: Virtual Tupac +1's this
- Chien-Yu Lin
Let's talk about the big September Keynotes that are coming up!
- Moe Glitz
there's no iOS equivalent of gtalk
- Kevin Marks
I’m glad I’m not overpaying for my non-Apple devices
- Da
Supercard was developed by Bill Appleton -- who created a cross-platform development tool - http://www.dreamfactory.com/
- John Taschek
iChat integrated AIM and jabber (gtalk), but never made it ot iOS, and now it's hosed on MacOS with facetime and imessage
- Kevin Marks
Scoble posts drunk to Chatter? uh-oh
- Kevin Marks
Social media for drunks... great
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@Taschek: Does DreamFactory mate up with SalesForce.com? Are there any overlaps? Just wondering if DF is used by development teams from a project management standpoint since one hears all of the merits of Agile / Scrum (and DF promotes Gantt Charts, which Agile / Scrum, says is antiquated).
- Chien-Yu Lin
Yes, I'm here. But I am not commenting. Miss me.
- Francine Hardaway
I know Bill from the Dreamfactory early days, but we do not use as a standard tool. It first worked with salesforce.com and now it works across multiple platforms.
- John Taschek
Where's Francine and why is she not commenting? Labor Day weekend?
- John Taschek
I think I'm going to create an drunk social media channel
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Francine is on strike maybe
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Some notifications are also suggesting input or action.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Tech Companies are the same as the Cable Guys, they are only interested in their own game
- Moe Glitz
"Play well together" or "the beginnings of collusion between AAPL & GOOG"?
- Chien-Yu Lin
I was way wrong about Flash. Didn't think HTML5 sniffing would happen all over so quickly.
- Amyloo
well, iOS made it requires, and then MacOS turned it off by default too.
- Kevin Marks
@ Francine Hardaway: You're in the online education field, right?
- Chien-Yu Lin
Flash was removed so that iTunes could sell more music.
- Murray Macdonald
Flash still has the biggest collection of early education apps.
- Murray Macdonald
According to the WSJ. Amazon will be releasing an Ad-supported Tablet
- Moe Glitz
Flash still big in online learning, too. Reluctance to invest in new authoring tools, I think.
- Amyloo
and reluctance to learn them
- Amyloo
Notifications really need to follow / multicast to you. Go to all of your devices but disappear when you clear it on any of your devices.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I can honestly say my twitter stream does not look like Scoble's stream
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Apple couldn't control their ecosystem if they allowed flash. The genii would be out of the bottle with no way to stop others from selling movies and music.
- Murray Macdonald
Mark his words, damn it!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Murray, you're bonkers. Apple doesn't care about that.
- Kevin Marks
Mark his words....Tina .. usually people Rob my words ...
- John Taschek
@Gang: Do we think Twitter's "clamp down" is more about closing off the sources of free money that people are earning without Twitter earning a cent?; creating a more standardized process / semantic structure for their new products so they can harmonize?; or something else? All I hear is complaints, but nothing specific.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Tina, I love it when you give Steve shit. You're our representative!
- Amyloo
Filtering needs to be controlled by the user, not the provider.
- Murray Macdonald
Amyloo - well, it IS my job
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think I was brave enough one time on NewsGang to tell him myself that he was full of shit.
- Amyloo
Scoble is my filter
- Da
when i unmute I can't hear you
- Kevin Marks
@Gang: When we say "filter" on Twitter and Bit.ly, can we filter against the element of "time"? That is, so one does not see any old re-Tweets from eight hours ago when clearly new Tweets have newer, more information.
- Chien-Yu Lin
what was that about 4 screens? how does that work when I'm on the phone
- Kevin Marks
twitters notifications are crap
- Kevin Marks
why not abstract and standardize these buses? We need to encourage app developers to write to a universal abstraction, not competing services. Then users could choose their bus and filtering tools without alienating apps
- Murray Macdonald
yep, Murray. activity streams, pubsubhubbub
- Kevin Marks
why would content providers (like facebook) who need ad revenue continue to allow clients that filter out ads?
- Murray Macdonald
Kevin: what we need is something like Flipboard that watches EVERYTHING and picks good stuff for your small screen. Which is exactly what its cover stories feature does.
- Robert Scoble
do to these what imessage does to sms
- Kevin Marks
makes sense robert.
- Kevin Marks
@Scoble: What was the product again?
- Chien-Yu Lin
flipboard
- Kevin Marks
@Kevin: Thanks
- Chien-Yu Lin
kindle is now on all my gadgets
- Kevin Marks
Facebook and other content owners need to get rid of flipboard and other filtering clients to have ad revenue. I think they will soon be history, like some twitter clients.
- Murray Macdonald
about to wrap.... thanks everyone for a great show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert: Thanks, sent email. Just needing your blessing to get Rocky and Tina talking.
- clive boulton
Wonder how you'd even go about trying to sync Kindle books with corresponding Audible book. That, I'd like.
- Amyloo
Thanks guys, and Tina!
- Murray Macdonald
Another great show. As always, learn something new each time. Have fun / Be safe this weekend.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Until next time!
- Nir Ben Yona
Good one, thanks Gang.
- Amyloo