Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PST

who's on today apart from me? - Kevin Marks

Me. - Robert Scoble

Rackspace's stock has doubled since Scoble got there. heheheh - Stephen Pickering

Doubled? When we joined it was about $6. Now it's about $43. - Robert Scoble

Oh wow, that's even better. I thought it was around 20, still kicking myself I didn't buy it then - Stephen Pickering

I'm kicking myself too. - Robert Scoble

hehe Kevin is banished TO the garden instead of FROM it - Dale Lature

We <3 the Gillmor Gang. - David Lloyd

it's not a walled garden, but it is a fenced one - Kevin Marks

I don't see the point. The whole point of the internet is that we can see photos of places far away. Why do we want to see photos of a place we are already at? - Stephen Pickering

I guess it's the idea of having yourself in the pics, which you normally would not get - Dale Lature

San Francisco felt like travelling to me, doing it 3 days and staying late - Kevin Marks

Salesforce acquired twitter of course. Oops thats next week. - David Lloyd

It's true. Drucker always said, "All great geniuses have great weakness. If you don't have the weakness bit (douchebag) you don't get the genius bit" - Stephen Pickering

I tuned in late but it sounded like you guys were talking about the Google autonomous auto...well at X PRIZE we're close to launching a competition for this: http://www.xprize.org/prize-d... - Mark Krynsky

so what Scoble was saying, George Bernard Shaw said better in 1903: "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." - Kevin Marks

Kevin: exactly. Douchebags. :-) - Robert Scoble

Evening all - Nick Halstead

Hi Nick. Loic and I were talking about you yesterday. Can't wait to see what you're working on. - Robert Scoble

Mark: that sounds cool. - Robert Scoble

I think you're making an excluded middle error if you say 'be nice to douchebags' as a result - Kevin Marks

Nick...hello sir... - Mark Krynsky

Cant wait - flying out early tomorrow morning. - Nick Halstead

you have to enable international calling on VZW - Tim Jones

How about the Amazon Cloud Player? - Stephen Pickering

Hi Mark, was great to catch up with you in South-by - Nick Halstead

Kevin: well, I said don't doubt visionaries so much. :-) - Robert Scoble

You guys heard today that Samsung announced the Wifi only Galaxy tab is coming out for $350 right? http://www.gizmocrunch.com/computi... - Mark Krynsky

HTC Thunderbolt outsells iPhone 4 claims an Analyst http://technewsperk.com/feature... - Tim Jones

$350 for the 10 inch one with Honeycomb? - David Lloyd

David...no the 7" froyo. - Mark Krynsky

Nokia's distribution is huge - Tim Jones

if they promise a honeycomb upgrade, that could eb good - Kevin Marks

Kevin yes, that's true...but $350 and the form factor are pretty compelling reasons to gain market share... $299 would have been better now that 1st gen iPads are $399 - Mark Krynsky

I think ill hold on to my cash for the next gen of tablets. I really want 1440x900 min resolution to read american comics on full size with no panning - David Lloyd

But are 1st gen iPads even available? - Stephen Pickering

I have an iPad 1st gen & I'm almost more compelled to get a Galaxy tab instead of upgrading to a 2nd gen iPad. - Mark Krynsky

featurephone owners more likely moving to Android - Tim Jones

Mark: if you go with 7-inch Tab that almost makes sense. But the apps suck so far compared to iPad. - Robert Scoble

I have you back live Robert - Tina Chase Gillmor

Tim: that's true, but we have to see if that distribution converts before you make wild predictions. - Robert Scoble

Robert...then I read this tweet today from Marshall who just got a Galaxy Tab which is worrying http://twitter.com/#!... - Mark Krynsky

Mark: Android is not as well debugged as iOS, that is a fact. - Robert Scoble

Thanks Tina! - Robert Scoble

That's what I'm seeing...hopefully Honeycomb helps. - Mark Krynsky

Ever wondered how many Tweets mention Lady Gaga? http://yfrog.com/h3gbmp - Nick Halstead

Nick...having fun with Datasift I see :) - Mark Krynsky

yes - was bored of android discussion :) - Nick Halstead

could be also that low and middle income featurephone owners also familiar with Windows PCs/laptops - Tim Jones

nick - ha! - Tina Chase Gillmor

Nick are there any new social content reader startups licensing Datasift data coming soon? - Mark Krynsky

TechCrunch traffic down 50% http://siteanalytics.compete.com/techcru... - David Lloyd

Woah! Why? - Stephen Pickering

David: Arrington has been far less prolific lately and he usually has the big meme bombs. - Robert Scoble

Don't know why.. but this graph is going around the net - David Lloyd

Mark - look here http://data2con.com/schedule/ - check out the slot at 1:20pm - and thats when you will find out more :) - Nick Halstead

MG Siegler is annoying - Tim Jones

Talk about the Amazon Cloud Player and its impact on iTunes - Stephen Pickering

Well every other MG post is an Apple Puff-piece... - David Lloyd

most people use few apps - Tim Jones

@david - trouble is I dont trust compete - their way of tracking could almost be classed as 'pure guess work' - Nick Halstead

but I do know the mashable is eating them alive - Nick Halstead

well I expected TC traffic to be way up since AOL, with AOL.com links coming in - David Lloyd

there's also Androids with keyboards - Tim Jones

Re: future of mobile, hopefully we'll see HTML 5 becoming more of the ubiquitous platform across all devices in a few years... - Mark Krynsky

Nick: Mashable is just not that interesting to me anymore. It's trying to go more mainstream. - Robert Scoble

Apple moves the market but then loses it - Tim Jones

iPhone Nano might be a good Apple solution for the low-end market. - Nir Ben Yona

Robert, agreed. I didnt say I read it :) - Petes a close friend but its aiming at a very different audience now. - Nick Halstead

Nick that conferences looks great. Wish I could go but too busy at work. - Mark Krynsky

does TC still have the power to make or break an APP / startup with a frontpage story like it used to be able to ? - David Lloyd

Joile O'Dell keeps up the techy posts on mashable - Kevin Marks

and Christina Warren on the mac side - Kevin Marks

I actually like the way TC / Mashable / RWW / TNW have segmented almost into different specialisations - Nick Halstead

The conference I'd also really like to go to in SF is the first Quantified Self one http://www.quantifiedself.com/confere... - Mark Krynsky

Nick: same here. Nick and I had a great talk at WEF. - Robert Scoble

The one I want to go to is http://www.the-eg.com/ - Robert Scoble

I enjoyed your Color audioblog post the other day Robert. - David Lloyd

Thanks David, I liked that a lot. - Robert Scoble

Toyotas more important in making vehicles accessible to the world than BMW - Tim Jones

I sensed a bit of tension at the start or nervousness? - David Lloyd

Robert that looks like another TED stylized conference. - Mark Krynsky

David: yes. I wasn't nice to them in my blog. Always leads to a little nervousness at first. - Robert Scoble

Mark: it was started by the guy who started TED. - Robert Scoble

Android gains matter http://www.businessinsider.com/android... - Tim Jones

The Color guys addmitted they shouldn't have made the $41million part of the launch propaganda, it got in the way -- http://www.cinchcast.com/scoblei... - David Lloyd

Go Pro rules! - Stephen Pickering

Windows 8 started to leak out this week I dont know if thats news - David Lloyd

Windows 8 logon screen http://www.winsupersite.com/Content... - David Lloyd

Robert, you going to the Data 2.0 VIP reception on Sunday night? - Nick Halstead

There are two different type of business people: those chasing only money, and those chasing innovation - Stephen Pickering

Stephen: their 3D system ships on Monday. - Robert Scoble

Nick: I don't think so. - Robert Scoble

change the world by making info tech accessible to to the Egyptian masses - Tim Jones

Yeah, I saw you post on that - Stephen Pickering

data 2 looks interesting - Kevin Marks

you going Kevin? - Nick Halstead

I remember when Scoble interviewed the IE 6 team wearing "I <3 RSS" tee shirts for Channel9. hehe - David Lloyd

no, didn't see it coming. - Kevin Marks

David: heheh. - Robert Scoble

Kevin, am sure they would give you a free ticket. - Nick Halstead

how many iPhones called the masses to Tahrir Square versus Nokias? - Tim Jones

"will tweet for ticket" - Kevin Marks

Tim: I don't know, but in Tel Aviv iPhones were everywhere and there isn't even an Apple store there. - Robert Scoble

who has the money to buy PC's in this economic depression? - Tim Jones

That's true. More than 150K iphones in Israel alone, without a genuine Apple store. - Nir Ben Yona

There's always money for productivity - Stephen Pickering

aren't we coming out of the depression into Recovery now? - David Lloyd

I'm sure I read 2.6% GDP growth - David Lloyd

Tim: here in Silicon Valley lots of people have money. - Robert Scoble

We may have a double dip because of the inflation that's coming - Stephen Pickering

Tim: and every engineer has a job if they can code. - Robert Scoble

Or rather is here, ie gas prices - Stephen Pickering

well the one think most economists agree on is Inflation is coming and its going to hurt - David Lloyd

Is the standard of living higher in America than England? because we pay $10+ for gas and have done for years and the inflation hasn't been too bad here - David Lloyd

america is a lot more spread out; petrol prices factor into lots of goods through transport costs - Kevin Marks

Though rumors claim that Cupertino is going to open an Apple store down town Jerusalem with a digital library http://tnw.co/fOiiZ5 - Nir Ben Yona

general cost of goods is lower here, and no VAT (though some state taxes) - Kevin Marks

Kevin - petrol is my favorite "english" word ! - Tina Chase Gillmor

Is it true that Apple is trying to set up a Six Month Window between new versions of iPhones and iPads, due to supply and demand? - Moe Glitz

is the general rule that average wages are lower in america than here but we get taxed alot more here? - David Lloyd

David: yeah, but your gas taxes pay for much better public transportation than here (and like Kevin says, the whole continent is much more compact than USA). - Robert Scoble

Right, but inflation is hitting all commodities. The only cure for inflation is growth which soaks up excess liquidity - Stephen Pickering

Jack being back at Twitter is great news - Nick Halstead

Nick: agreed. - Robert Scoble

the minimum wage in england is £5.93 which works out at $9.48 - David Lloyd

Met Jack in Paris at Le Web. Nice guy. I LIKE him - Tina Chase Gillmor

Tina: agreed. I'd rather have beer with Jack than with Ev. - Robert Scoble

Jack follows me Ev doesn't. :-) So I might be biased. - Robert Scoble

Amazing how nice you get when you're worth many hundreds of millions - Stephen Pickering

I like Jack, but I like Ev and Dick too, in different ways - Kevin Marks

I was fortunate to visit Better Place first battery-swap station last week. It's awesome and QUICK http://twitpic.com/4cfp6q - Nir Ben Yona

Robert weren't you one of the first people on "twttr" ? - David Lloyd

Apple should just acquire Twitter. They have enough dough in the kitty! - Moe Glitz

David: I was about the 13,200th person on Twttr. - Robert Scoble

Always late to the party! :-) - Robert Scoble

13000 probably counts as very early considering the number they have now - David Lloyd

David: yup. Considering there are hundred million + on Twitter now. - Robert Scoble

I joined twitter december 11th 2006; not sure what number though - Kevin Marks

hmmm...somehow the absence of the dickbar had not crossed my radar.....great. I like the dickless version....errr dick-barless version - Dale Lature

Just reminded me of the episode of the simpsons when Mr Burns social security number is "2" - David Lloyd

Facebook is mainstream, Twitter isn't. - Nir Ben Yona

QuickBar! Not Dickbar! will somebody think of the children! - David Lloyd

I wish there was an easy way for tweets show up in a map, like it is in Google Buzz for Mobile - Tim Jones

Tim: there is probably an app for that somewhere, maybe obscure! - David Lloyd

I give Google +1 a - 2 - Moe Glitz

I loved Caroline's phrase "insidery tech circles dubbing the feature "dickbar" in reference to Twitter CEO Dick Costolo and the oft-derogatory alternate meaning of his first name" - Kevin Marks

No, no, no, Facebook has more info on you, so it can target ads better - Stephen Pickering

I swear there are dozens of twitter apps which no one knows about but the developer and his family - David Lloyd

Twitter for speedy communication - news. Facebook for sharing - Tina Chase Gillmor

I played around with FB advertising last month and I saw the light - Stephen Pickering

Facebook will never be the news distribution platform that Twitter is #fact - Nick Halstead

More like $85B now :) #Facebook - Nir Ben Yona

there used to be a rule in the Twitter TOS that you shall not use the service primarily to pass links out hehe. - David Lloyd

I think you might be right Nick - Tina Chase Gillmor

I used to be a total Twitter guy, now I'm spending much more time on FB - Stephen Pickering

Tweeter is for getting news out to the world, FB is to update just for friends - Tim Jones

I sense a GG argument building... we havent had one this week - David Lloyd

depends on your age; younger people think FB is public, use twitter in private mode - Kevin Marks

2M Israelis on FB. Just 70K on Twitter. Most kids are using Facebook rather than Twitter. - Nir Ben Yona

"There are no masses, just ways of treating people as masses" - Kevin Marks

im interested in seeing 'trending' topics based upon a stream filtered by only higher authority users - Nick Halstead

Nir - Yes, young people DO NOT LIKE Twitter - Tina Chase Gillmor

"sometimes you want a burger not a fillet steak" - me - David Lloyd

Facebook has 600 million users. But yet I know friends that have up to 20 fake/fun accounts. - Moe Glitz

radian6 is track, like Nick's thing, no? - Kevin Marks

Right, if that trending topics were curated a little much more value - Stephen Pickering

radian6 is like stone age tech Kevin - great marketing tho - Nick Halstead

hyperlocal should come with a map - Tim Jones

I want trends from my friends, minus the global trends. That would be interesting - Kevin Marks

why do I keep losing my comment window? - Tina Chase Gillmor

I reckon in about a year Steve may admit we already have track + a license to sell it :) - Nick Halstead

Facebook will own brand marketing, Google will own cash flow marketing - Stephen Pickering

Kevin: that's why Nick's company is so interesting. - Robert Scoble

Nick: agreed. Except can you let me DataSift the folks I'm following? - Robert Scoble

Has that shipped yet? - Robert Scoble

despite what they have said, right now a team of Google's best is hard at work on a facebook killer :) - David Lloyd

Robert - Monday, monday, monday ..... all will be revealed - Nick Halstead

Cause I'm 50x more interested in the 31,000 people I'm following than the masses who are asses. - Robert Scoble

Nick: understood. Can't wait! - Robert Scoble

Nick, is that conference being live streamed? - Kevin Marks

I can hear all the Tweets around Kevin Marks. Cool! - Moe Glitz

another Seesmic pivot? quelle surprise. - Jamie

kevin, yes - Nick Halstead

Nick - would you like to break some news here? - Tina Chase Gillmor

@scobleizer - Masses who are asses - this was related to Alexander Hamilton's thinking about how the masses choose the least common denominator for president. - John Taschek

Jamie: not really. Seesmic has an application plugin platform that is quite nice. - Robert Scoble

heh, yes, those are real tweets. I have an Android app, nanoTweeter, that pays a tweet sound when I get amention, and got false positives in my garden - Kevin Marks

Jamie: this is just reflecting Seesmic's previous pivots. - Robert Scoble

what ever happened to Seesmic Look! seemic for real people - David Lloyd

David: it is as lame an idea as Microsoft Bob. - Robert Scoble

Seesmic isnt pivoting again - Loic has already stated his goal with going enterprise - Nick Halstead

David: things aimed at novices rarely succeed. - Robert Scoble

the "Idiots" series of books did ok! - David Lloyd

David: and because Seesmic is going enterprise the idea of aiming at novices just won't work. - Robert Scoble

"TV is not vulgar and prurient and dumb because the people who compose the audience are vulgar and dumb. Television is the way it is simply because people tend to be extremely similar in their vulgar and prurient and dumb interests and wildly different in their refined and aesthetic and noble interests." - David Foster Wallace - Kevin Marks

that's the pivot I was referring to - enterprise. - Jamie

Twitter for Idiots - David Lloyd

Twitter For Dummies is Laura Fitton et al's book - very good - Kevin Marks

David: the idiots series of books actually are quite advanced. The goal is to get those people NOT to think like they are idiots. - Robert Scoble

I like that quote, Kevin. Uncomfortable with masses as asses. - Amyloo

Amyloo: blame my history teacher in college. - Robert Scoble

Robert Fricke. One of the best teachers I've ever had. - Robert Scoble

OK. - Amyloo

Ah, you guys are talking Social Readers I've created a comparison matrix here: http://lifestreamblog.com/on-the-... - Mark Krynsky

I can't believe the Activity Streams meetup went to Chevy's, when Thirsty Bear is next door... - Kevin Marks

Alpha male - Stephen Pickering

I've been playing with a few more and need to add them and tweak the columns a bit... - Mark Krynsky

I just ran out of MI-5 to watch on my AppleTV :( - Kevin Marks

So far my favorite service based on prioritizing my social graph (Twitter only) is still Tweeted Times. My favorite based on relevancy algorithm so far is Zite. - Mark Krynsky

Mark: I like Zite but it doesn't do Twitter yet, does it? That's a huge mistake. - Robert Scoble

I didn't touch anything from Apple until 1985 - Kevin Marks

which do you recommend Mark? - Jamie

Kevin: I was a Apple customer back in 1977. - Robert Scoble

What year was Apple born? - Tina Chase Gillmor

Tina: 1976, if I remember right. - Robert Scoble

I had a PET - Kevin Marks

duh, just saw your post. my bad! I agree Zite is fantastic. a lot of legal issues brewing though - Jamie

My dad bought an Apple II. I got a tour of Apple when it was a single building back in 1977. - Robert Scoble

April 1st 1976 - Moe Glitz

'76 Geez, really? - Tina Chase Gillmor

Robert it does support twitter but I believe only for keyword category information I believe. - Mark Krynsky

Microsoft 75 - Moe Glitz

Mark - interesting comparison of social media - http://bit.ly/gUBc7x (shrunken for Twitter) - John Taschek

AppleTV defaults to iTunes, then you switch to netflix - Kevin Marks

I think Netflix is selling themselves short. Apple TV needs them as much as they need Apple TV - Stephen Pickering

Google TV, Google Music. All suck! - Moe Glitz

It's an accessory. - Amyloo

Over 50,000 hours of video are uploaded to Youtube every day - http://bit.ly/hfA8mM - John Taschek

How about a proper Apple 52'inch TV - Moe Glitz

Boxee is going to release an Air-play like application soon. - Nir Ben Yona

a 1080p AppleTV would be nice, eventually - Kevin Marks

Searching for GG time today, noticed somebody still retweeting that almost 2-year-old Leo blows up at Arrington video. - Amyloo

With iOs and AirPlay inside! - Moe Glitz

Amy - dirt lives forever - Tina Chase Gillmor

Seriously! - Amyloo

Tina, have you tried Daz! - Moe Glitz

That's a cool accessory for the ipad http://bit.ly/fQ3GIs - Nir Ben Yona

We're gonna start sellin' stuff! Enough SEO, we're going SEM baby! - Stephen Pickering

licensing airplay video will be a big deal - Jamie

A VW van and $10,000 wasn't that Odwalla? - Kevin Marks

Kevin: I think Odwalla has a similar story. - Robert Scoble

Kevin: GoPro started with capital made by reselling bead belts that Nick, CEO, bought on a surfing trip in Australia. - Robert Scoble

Technology will continue to march on...in spite of Douchebaggery. - Mark Krynsky

Is there a Craigslist App for the iPad! Not! - Moe Glitz

Because of Douchebaggery! - Stephen Pickering

Moe: it's called Safari. - Robert Scoble

New and upcoming Apple AirPlay products http://cnet.co/ejCqs2 - Nir Ben Yona

shame that AirPlay is closed, compared to the original DAAP - Kevin Marks

I love my ipad / New York Times paywall workaround - defrag_Ami

I can easily see AirPlay usurping DLNA as the standard for this stuff. defacto of course. - Jamie

DLNA is such a mess on Android - Kevin Marks

uPnp - Mark Krynsky

but doing it as a standard would be good - Kevin Marks

uPnP is crap compared to ZeroConf - Kevin Marks

Robert- loved the Cooliris Vids. - Moe Glitz

i think the Amazon news is a big deal. - Jamie

I use my android for music and podcasts all the time - Kevin Marks

Kevin...I thought we were just playing digitial media bingo. - Mark Krynsky

Moe, thanks, they were a bit long and a bit pitchy but I like what they are doing. - Robert Scoble

I use google listen more on a time basis - Kevin Marks

but it depends how much of the day I'm travelling - Kevin Marks

That's what current.tv should do with olbermann - Amyloo

Download web browser, Atomic Lite (free), set to private browsing mode, and just use that for NY Times. Cookies are deleted every time you put app in background. - defrag_Ami

wow - Jamie

Jamie: wow what? - Robert Scoble

that airplay news. is it public knowledge? - Jamie

They give the iPad a whole new dimension - Moe Glitz

xbox is the media hub - Tim Jones

DLNA works OK on my Android. But i's an awful implementation. - John Taschek

Jamie: nope, not public yet. - Robert Scoble

Jamie: Gillmor Gang is about the future. :-) - Robert Scoble

who did you say? Hulu and? - Jamie

Jamie: if I remember right Netflix. But not from those services themselves. From a new startup coming this week. - Robert Scoble

the Airplay protocol is open (audio now, video soon). it will be in a ton of devices. - Jamie

Why can't I watch The Gillmor Gang live on my iPad 2? Catch up. - Stefan Etienne

xbox live - Tim Jones

Stefan: Ustream sucks. We have to figure that out. - Robert Scoble

URL jamie - Kevin Marks

Stefan: do you have the latest Ustream app? - Robert Scoble

Yes. - Stefan Etienne

Stefan and Tina: we need to figure that out. I think Ustream forces people to use a new producer app to get displayed in the Ustream app on iOS. - Robert Scoble

does Apple play with other handware companies? - Tim Jones

Ah, ok. - Stefan Etienne

hardware - Tim Jones

yes tim, look at the huge aftermarket hardware for the iPhone/pod/pad connector - Kevin Marks

I'm saying it needs to be like firewire, not like iPod connector - Kevin Marks

Kevin - agree - John Taschek

Leo will be in the new studio - Stephen Pickering

is Leo still using the Skyepasaurus? - Kevin Marks

Kevin, Yes - Stephen Pickering

Thanks to everyone. Chat is fabulous! Have a great Saturday - Tina Chase Gillmor

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