Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PST participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
Robert Scoble,
Tina Chase Gillmor,
chrisofspades,
clive boulton,
Jerome Hughes,
Kathleen Hassinger,
and
Dale Lature
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Will need to miss today but I just watched a few older episodes on my phone yesterday. Magical. Thanks Steve and Tina.
- Christian Burns
Starting shortly
- Robert Scoble
thanks to you Christian.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hello everyone
- Mark Vaske
State of the twunion?
- Kevin Marks
hello!!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
44% of the active users are inactive?
- Kevin Marks
he, he
- Tina Chase Gillmor
lurkers evolve into users
- Jerome Hughes
or urkers, drop the L...
- Aron Michalski
Ex-radio listeners have become Twitter lurkers, no?
- Alex de Soto
An "edge case"?
- Brian Sullivan
if I was to ask a question and get 30,000 answers, it would be almost impossible for me to find useful.
- Aron Michalski
It's becoming so spammy too, almost Myspace spammy
- Stephen Pickering
tune out some noise
- Jerome Hughes
the other is if a keyword is sniffed I get 5 more spambot follows and misdirects.
- Aron Michalski
Robert, is Foursquare boring?
- Moe Glitz
thats atypical for the average g+ user. FB still dominates average user conversation.
- Mark Vaske
Conversations with brands work on Twitter, Especially with customer service folks.
- Alex de Soto
it was actually a typo; Bantams are dead, he had chicken for lunch.
- Aron Michalski
definitely great for contacting developers
- Mark Vaske
Robert likes Planes rather than Buses!
- Moe Glitz
Scoble reminds me of this old Dvorak column about blogging: http://www.pcmag.com/article...
- Kevin Marks
Scoble looks like he's in a Peter Gabriel video...
- Aron Michalski
people use twitter, people don't use google+
- Mark Vaske
G+ devrel advice set up a circle just for Scoble (only go when u hv time)
- clive boulton
Zuckerberg on G+ follows Marks's law of twitter: if you tweet you lose followers; if you're retweeted you gain followers. By not posting, no-one unfollows Zuck
- Kevin Marks
Not posting public and not posting aren't the same thing. It's possible Zuckerberg has posted, just not publicly.
- James Williams
What Google is doing is building a cloud operating system, and the value proposition is the integration of all the parts, with a Social Network being just one part
- Stephen Pickering
Counting only posts is not the same as counting all interaction.
- James Williams
Peter Norvig's researchers and machine learning are all over G+
- clive boulton
Posts + comments should be used as a measure against tweets
- Brian Sullivan
true, James.
- Kevin Marks
but unless google releases figures like twitter just did, that would be hard to compare
- Kevin Marks
any thoughts about the WSJ article on Zynga? "We're an analytics company masquerading as a gaming company." Different goal makes for different business plan?
- Aron Michalski
you can spark it...
- Mark Vaske
I'm on
- Keith Teare
A tweet can be original content or a reply. Until we count posts and +1's and comments, we won't have an accurate number. +1 Brian
- James Williams
Google + might just be a placeholder.
- Aron Michalski
FriendFeed is still better than Google+ technically and functionally.
- Brian Sullivan
well not +1's - that woudl be counting favorites on twitter
- Kevin Marks
Keith, how much do you use Google + ?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
but the flat nature of tweets is in some ways an advantage
- Kevin Marks
Here we go again... "Normal". Elitist crap.
- Aron Michalski
Daily peek, don't publish much
- Keith Teare
interesting. Me too.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It's not so much search as it is getting content onto their system as oppossed to a competitor's cloud system that is closed off from the open web
- Stephen Pickering
Can John stop talking too much?
- Moe Glitz
Kevin, I don't think +1s are conceptually the same. I plus +1 things that I agree with, not necessarily things I want to save for later (I have a Favorites circle for that).
- James Williams
Herman Caine seemed the most Reaganesque to me. He was cool.
- Stephen Pickering
G+ is like scanning a newspaper rather than having a channel on 24/7
- Aron Michalski
I tried their exporter out when talking about microformats with Sarah Perez this week, and was surprised how few g+ posts I'd made
- Kevin Marks
Danny, I just figured out why Elliot wanted real names.com
- Keith Teare
+Aron yes, G+ prolly research
- clive boulton
It's a G+ play - obviously
- Keith Teare
Elliot who?
- Kevin Marks
I have a folder of 15 actual friends...
- Aron Michalski
WTF does using a "real (sounding) name" have to with identifying a person?
- Brian Sullivan
Latest news says that Yahoo may merge with AOL
- Moe Glitz
I don't even know what yahoo does or stands for. It's ridiculous
- Stephen Pickering
Hay for the farm. Next.
- Aron Michalski
I know a lot of smart people at Yahoo, but also a lot of legacy process that needs fixing
- Kevin Marks
No one knows what yahoo is because it isn't anything
- Stephen Pickering
I should wear my Google Apps NSA t-shirt (Not Search or Ads)
- Kevin Marks
Waiting for a Combine.
- Aron Michalski
Portals are so last year
- Moe Glitz
Yahoo Finance is the only reason I use Yahoo.
- James Williams
Good job Jerry + Akiko paid for Y2E2 when the stock was high
- clive boulton
Are you sure NSA isn't their association with National Security?
- Aron Michalski
what about the new iPad app
- Mark Vaske
that was the joke, Aron
- Kevin Marks
Sorry Kevin, I'm a bit slow. Mentally.
- Aron Michalski
Google Desktop is the desktop app, not iGoogle.
- James Williams
What if Google+ doesn't actually take off though Robert?
- Mark Vaske
Is Big G gonna need as many engineers after all pruning?
- clive boulton
Good point John.
- Aron Michalski
Yahoo Mail is the only pulse for the company
- Moe Glitz
Groups and their homepage are still huge
- Kevin Marks
Stereo Scoble...oof!
- Aron Michalski
what happens when netflix looses starz?
- Mark Vaske
Bartz proves enterprise CEOs mismatched for Consumer Web
- clive boulton
Prodigy > AOL > Yahoo! > Facebook > ?
- Alex de Soto
robert can you mute, I'm getting echo from you
- Kevin Marks
Here's a question: who do you take an established community and port them over if they don't respond to social gold stars?
- Aron Michalski
Don't solve problems, don't fix anything, do something cool
- Stephen Pickering
...and here's the part of the show where we provide major SV company's lots of free advice! You're welcome
- Tina Chase Gillmor
There are plenty of users(targets) who don't play games, don't check in, don't collect stickers ("grown ups"?) how do you bag them and get them into your universe? Purchase?
- Aron Michalski
right on Robert! notifications Red box
- clive boulton
Flickr has somehow lost momentum.
- Aron Michalski
yahoo does have an activity stream: http://pulse.yahoo.com/ not used much thug
- Kevin Marks
NEXT SPRING FOR AN IPAD APP!?
- Mark Vaske
This Programme keeps on freezing
- Moe Glitz
are Yahoo execs listening to GG? Google does.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think my point was how do you get people out of established Yahoo Groups and move them into a new retirement community?
- Aron Michalski
whats Facebook going to do for social tv when apple puts it out?
- Mark Vaske
Alliance with Twitter or shotgun wedding?
- James Williams
Notification bus on iPad is crap
- Kevin Marks
can't stand it
- Kevin Marks
Making a particular network a preferred community.
- Aron Michalski
@Kevin, do you have iOS 5?
- Mark Vaske
3 screens, but one of them is not the desktop? hmm....
- chrisofspades
Or getting your community onto a preferred network.
- Aron Michalski
Apple will own the Social Notification Platform
- Moe Glitz
The imac will become a touchscreen with a stand and a keyboard.
- Aron Michalski
More elitist bullshit. Guess what, the people in the back of the plane spend money too.
- Aron Michalski
ha John
- Mark Vaske
and youre not poor either.
- Aron Michalski
80% of the planet survives on a salary of $2 a day. Are you above that level?
- Aron Michalski
"Now deliver me social..." :)
- James Williams
There are smart, valid people in coach. Spending 3 times more to sit in the front of the plane to get to the same fucking place is just...dopey.
- Aron Michalski
twitter and fb
- Mark Vaske
Aron, *nods*, those in first could also be on free upgrades which I get from time to time even when I purchase coach.
- James Williams
do rich people use Facebook?
- Aron Michalski
20 yrs with Steve married. yep
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The rich only use Google+
- Moe Glitz
congrats
- Mark Vaske
In the early days, that was true because to be on FB, you originally had to be a college student.
- James Williams
I'll take a fat seat anytime the rich stay home. It's nice to be able to reach into your own pants pocket and pull out something (which is hard to do in coach without dislocating your shoulder...)
- Aron Michalski
Kevin he is saying that apple is driving the usage that brings notifications back to the hardware...
- Mark Vaske
Apple didn't invent multitasking....Android and WebOS had it first.
- James Williams
Danny carriers don't control apple software unlike android
- Mark Vaske
Thanks - told him the other day I didn't realize forever would mean 20 &(#($ years
- Tina Chase Gillmor
so absolute control and no choice is better.
- Aron Michalski
There are multiple app stores on Apple. There is Cydia and OpenMarket.
- James Williams
well, Apple had it in 1985 when Andy Herzfeld wrote switcher, but i know what you mean
- Kevin Marks
That's true James.
- Aron Michalski
Full circle: And Yahoo! app search has both Apple and Android apps: http://apps.search.yahoo.com/search...
- Alex de Soto
Well theres your problem.
- Mark Vaske
Sprint will not move Ma Bell and Big Red...they lease lines from them.
- James Williams
Too back the only one left to properly (legally?) crack is Apple TV and that would be interesting
- Aron Michalski
Mission accomplished, Steve.
- Aron Michalski
Kevin any thoughts on CCNx Open Source platform for named data. Live(ish) stream @PARCinc #ccnx
- clive boulton
not seen that, cliveb - URL?
- Kevin Marks
Good to be in a museum and be staring into a phone. So 21st Century.
- Aron Michalski
They bought it to get rich elitests to pay attention to them for a day.
- Aron Michalski
zagat is all about local
- studentforce
Agree with studentforce
- James Williams
ahole
- Mark Vaske
YOL - Yahoo's Out of Luck(lives)
- James Williams
who really cares about yahoo!
- studentforce
Weather's mild in London right now
- Moe Glitz
nice time fo year to visit london
- Kevin Marks
we can dream...
- Aron Michalski
thanks everybody.
- Aron Michalski
if we had names for the episodes, Yahole has to be it
- Dale Lature
Yahole....I won't forget that one soon!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
thanks to all y'all!
- Tina Chase Gillmor