Trollaxor: Firefox Has Too Many Developers - http://www.trollaxor.com/2009...
Jan 28, 2010
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"In its last several releases, everyone's favorite Open Source browser has become an unstable mess of add-ons, plugins, and other hacks that chew up memory like a fat kid with a chocolate-dipped corn dog. In fact, just last week, SecurityFocus released news of a devastating exploit in Firefox 3.5.5 that they blame squarely on its unstable architecture...Against the Hayes Law, Firefox appears to have jumped the shark sometime after the Firefox 2.0 in 2006. The next major release, Firefox 3.0 in 2008, introduced many issues users today complain about: bloat, sloth, instability, and insatiable hunger for memory. Firefox user complaints increased in tandem, all syncing up with the jump in developers. Ergo Firefox's problem: too many cocks in the kitchen....The core of this problem looms: the number of developers, as seen in the chart above, will only continue to skyrocket for Firefox 3.6 and beyond. By the time Firefox 4.0 is released, sometime in December 2010, the number of developers will be nearly 4,000, almost a full magnitude greater than the optimal 445 or so in 2006. Clearly, Firefox is about to capsize."
- bob
I actually just switched to Chrome cause FireFox kept crashing on me (OSX Snow Leopard).
- Scott. Cat Herder.
I just switched because my firefox is having trouble connecting to friendfeed, and it wants me to install updates every day. I just wish chrome would import my open tabs, since that's where all the state is :) (and also logins)
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, I agree.
- Scott. Cat Herder.
So has Firefox turned into Mozilla?
- Gabe
"In its last several releases, everyone's favorite Open Source browser has become an unstable mess of add-ons, plugins, and other hacks that chew up memory like a fat kid with a chocolate-dipped corn dog." - Whoever wrote this article needs to get a fucking clue. Independent testing shows Fx using LESS memory than ANY OTHER browser: http://lifehacker.com/5457242...
- LANjackal
It's unclear what purpose it serves anymore. Webkit is the future :)
- Paul Buchheit
As if you'd say anything else.
- LANjackal
It got *way* too slow for me - it's gone the way of Netscape in my eyes, as has Mozilla
- Jesse Stay
Uh-oh, Chrome opens news tabs adjacent to the current tab, which disturbs the order (I keep apps in fixed locations). Is there some way to change that?
- Paul Buchheit
that statement is consistent with how it runs on my computer - sucks up a lot of memory pretty quickly for no clear reason
- bob
Paul: right click on a tab and select 'pin tab'.
- Evan Parker
That's funny, because nearly every independent test I've seen shows Firefox using less memory than Chrome. The difference is that Chrome shows up as several processes, while Fx shows up as one, so I think most people skip on doing the math or guesstimate, and since Fx has the largest number the automatically assume it's a hog. But it's not.
- LANjackal
I don't seem to have that option Evan (osx)
- Paul Buchheit
Chrome is the biggest memory user because it does such a great job that I have a zillion tabs open in it. Half the time I click on FireFox it has some 9 click dialog asking me some complicated question about updating or announcing how nice it is I've upgraded. And when it comes to 100% cpu issues regardless of the browser it's usually flash's fault.
- Hayes Haugen
I'm confused by the claim that bloat and memory hunger got introduced in FF 3.x. Weren't those things a common complaint about FF 2.x?
- John (bird whisperer)
Hayes: That's just about the worst exaggeration I've heard all week. Fx updates are few and far between, and the dialog doesn't require anywhere near 9 clicks
- LANjackal
Dendroica: your confusion is caused by the author of the article clearly not having used Fx extensively since v 2.* His statements on RAM usage are disproven by most independent tests (<-why tf is everyone ignoring that point???)
- LANjackal
okay, I use firefox. what is better?
- amelia arapoff