Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1:15pm

GroupOn? Gadgets? Google geekiness? All waiting for the call. - Robert Scoble

Don't suppose you'll discuss Wikileaks? ;-) ... very troubled by the censorship and lock down and the scared rabbits we have become ... - Xenophrenia

Weird the talking heads on my TV all say it's terrorism, you mean I shouldn't trust them? - Michael Breslin

Xenophrenia: it's more complicated than that. Did you see the Amazon response to why they kicked them off? - Robert Scoble

;-) ... no ... because they don't want they're message disrupted by this damn internet thing - Xenophrenia

It's not just Amazon Robert .. the Library of Congress is blocking access to it on their wi-fi now - Xenophrenia

The question is what will be the political favor amazon asks for in return. - Michael Breslin

The Gu's "tattoo" http://tumblr.com/x0dyafhwv - clive boulton

And what consequences were they 'threatened' with if they didn't - Xenophrenia

Xenophrenia: I believe @werner when they said they weren't threatened with anything. - Robert Scoble

I don't like this at all ;-( ... first the DHS is removing sites (at least their domains) ... now this sort of thing - Xenophrenia

It's quite possible they just wanted to be removed from the shit storm, they have to think about their other customers as well. - Michael Breslin

Xeno: welcome to the new, friendlier, China. - Robert Scoble

maybe not explicitly ... - Xenophrenia

;-) .. exactly Robert - Xenophrenia

I don't want to become China though - Xenophrenia

Michael: exactly. - Robert Scoble

Freedom of speech/freedom of the press was getting old anyway. - Michael Breslin

Well - we lost the 4th amendment - why not the 1st .. ;-) - Xenophrenia

The DEA had taken the 4th long before the TSA did ;-) ... *sigh* ... I'll stop now ... - Xenophrenia

Just talked to Steve, we'll be starting shortly. - Robert Scoble

Sorry for the delay - Robert Scoble

His daughter took an unplanned trip to emergency room. - Robert Scoble

I find the talk of the P2P DNS interesting ... anyone here know anything about that or how it would work? - Xenophrenia

Bill Hill, inventor of Cleartype has a new music video on Youtube and its great: http://www.youtube.com/watch... - David Lloyd

Glad to have been able to catch the last couple GGs live. - Michael Breslin

Michael Copps, of the FCC, has some interesting comments about journalism earlier in the week, though he didn't touch on the Wikileaks topic http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news... (original story: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/enterta...) - Chris Aldrich

She's okay Robert? ... didn't that happen not real long ago too? - Xenophrenia

Bill Hill was great in his Channel 9 videos, nod to Scoble for that. :) - Michael Breslin

He was my first interview at Microsoft. Love him. - Robert Scoble

Sorry for the delay. Everything is getting hooked up. - Robert Scoble

I see Kevin ;-) ... hello Kevin - Xenophrenia

hi Xeno - Kevin Marks

Bill HIll is one of those guys you could listen to talk about any subject for hours and hours. - David Lloyd

I think Andrew Keen just got visited by Jehovah's Witnesses. We're live now. - Robert Scoble

we need a Brady Bunch intro... - Kevin Marks

Andrew is Oompa Loompa Orange - Kevin Marks

I have a laptop attached to my television ;-) .. and haven't had cable television in years - Xenophrenia

Bandwidth is infinite - George Gilder - Stephen Pickering

Feels like a conversation from the past.. - dan farber

Comcast / L3 = Bit-torrent replay - clive boulton

So has Comcast blocked Netflix? - Stephen Pickering

Comcast asked L3 for fees - clive boulton

Pickerring: No; they are just negotiating. - coldbrew

But channel capacity is finite - Claude Shannon - Chris Aldrich

There are an infinite number of colors of light, and each color can be a channel - Stephen Pickering

Video files are really handy when you need to clear disc space... - Kevin Marks

and if you lose access to the internet? - Xenophrenia

no more movie - Xenophrenia

3 strikes! - Stephen Pickering

with just accusations - Xenophrenia

do you remember the Qwest commercials from 10 years ago? - Kevin Marks

we will never be offline ... hmm ... altruistic - Xenophrenia

http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Kevin Marks

As finished as RSS :) - coldbrew

there are a lot of people don't have this sort of access and if the economic disparity between the lower and higher classes means those who don't have access are screwed in other words - Xenophrenia

you don't need to stream them, you can download them and start playing while they are downloading - Kevin Marks

if i rent a dvd from netflix, can I rip said dvd to my imac? - Stephen Pickering

not legally ;-) - Xenophrenia

I remain unconvinced that there is a demand to match Hollywood's desire to produce 3D - Andrew Hazlett

but yes - technically you can - Xenophrenia

My friend runs KQED Quest, which shoots in HD, and now serves 1080p if you want it http://www.kqed.org/quest/ - Kevin Marks

Andrew: my late adopter brother in law bought a 3DTV. You'd be shocked to learn that there are SOME people who will want 3D. - Robert Scoble

I live on the edge since I am currently unemployed ... I may lose access to my broadband ... then what? ... if I don't have stuff here I will be left with nothing if everything goes to online - Xenophrenia

100Mbit fibre ta-da solution! - clive boulton

it seems many here seem to not be aware that there are other people in the world without the access you have - Xenophrenia

Light Peak vs USB3? - Alex de Soto

Privilege Denying Scoble strikes again, Xenophrenia? - Kevin Marks

? ... I didn't say he was denying me privileges ... just pointing out that the cloud may not be always available for some - Xenophrenia

Xenophrenia: true enough! :-) But then if you live in a tent in Africa you probably have a series 60 Nokia phone and nothing else. So, I don't need to worry about them too much. - Robert Scoble

Xenophrenia: the numbers of people who don't have access to cloud go down every day. - Robert Scoble

So I should move to Africa? ;-) - Xenophrenia

Xenophrenia: and this show is about the bleeding edge, which is moving to Netflix streaming VERY quickly. - Robert Scoble

Robert doesn't care about normal people. :x - Michael Breslin

But there are things that could severely disrupt that access ... and then what ... hell ... Northern lights have brought down power in Canada before - Xenophrenia

Michael: right. :-) Normal people copy us eventually. - Robert Scoble

I know I like having a 4TB NAS. - coldbrew

I'm just saying that there are considerations - Xenophrenia

Xeno: when the net goes down, I just visit my friends and start drinking. - Robert Scoble

Did anyone see the Ari Emmanuel interview at Web 2.0? - Stephen Pickering

Robert: hehehehe - Xenophrenia

fibre to home, problem gone - clive boulton

Is Ari's interview online Stephen? - Chris Aldrich

boulton: What's the cost per home to deploy? - coldbrew

Chris, yes, they have all the Web 2.0 summit interviews on youtube - Stephen Pickering

the cloud generation won't be so much collectors as connectors - dan farber

yes dan, connectors , sharers and reconnectors - Kevin Marks

coldrew: cost / home too high - clive boulton

cost/home is about the cost of a new fence - Kevin Marks

I can't imagine that Emmanuel or any of the other Hollywood establishment really and truly get any of the new technology that is being discussed here. - Chris Aldrich

We'd already have fiber to the home if there weren't telecom regulation - Stephen Pickering

As for comcast and their ilk, they planned on charging toll fees when they bought/laid the pipes, assuming their lobby would be strong enough to crush any oposition. - Michael Breslin

And as things are in the cloud how much easier to control the message will it be? ... - Xenophrenia

cartels always get disrupted... eventually - Andrew Hazlett

Ari said .99 was too low for a song, and that Jobs had screwed the labels, and they weren't going to let that happen to video - Stephen Pickering

The problem with the entertainment establishment is that the financial models of the "old" distribution and the "new" distribution don't meet nicely in the middle. It's going to take a massive and very painful transition to bridge the gap. - Chris Aldrich

Jobs saved the labels. He gave them ALL the money from iTunes sales - Kevin Marks

Verizon is provisioning fibre to home (Comcast is not) - clive boulton

Jobs makes money selling devices - Kevin Marks

The value of media ownership goes down as quality content requiring 1080p becomes scarcer (for me). I don't buy as many blu-ray movies and am content with Netflix because there aren't as many new good movies that interest me. - Alex de Soto

Michael, that's right, and using government to competitive advantage is not true capitalism - Stephen Pickering

Verizon is no longer provisioining any more fiber. - coldbrew

We moved the living room around, and now the Sofa is further from the TV, so netflix quality is good enough ;) - Kevin Marks

we will not have copies of important files that could quietly start 'disappearing' online ... I tend to see what can go wrong ... and unfortunately have seen it happen too often ... I don't want to say I told you so ... but I see it ... the possibility of it - Xenophrenia

Coldbrew: Why VZ stopped? - clive boulton

I agree Kevin, and then Ari really went off on O'Reilly who suggested DRM free video would help sales - Stephen Pickering

What you call it is irrelevant, it's reality. It will happen, net neutrality will lose imo, too much money is at stake for big companies. - Michael Breslin

boulton: They are concentrating on getting more of their footprint subscribed. - coldbrew

Provisioning fiber is phenomenally expensive... The reason the last mile is called a "problem" is that the cost is so high. - Chris Aldrich

Ari who? Missed the original link - Kevin Marks

Chris: and part of recouping that cost is charging tolls, this was the plan from the beginning. - Michael Breslin

We need an AMD to bust Comcast/ VZ lock on last mile - clive boulton

@Kevin Ari Emmanuel a talent agent and one of the heads of William Morris Agency - Chris Aldrich

Breslin: Will "white space" spectrum help in forcing comptetition? - coldbrew

Ari Emmanuel, the Super Agent in Hollywood, he was interviewed at the Web 2.0 summit, he's the brother of Rahm Emmanuel - Stephen Pickering

I don't see how, the fat pipes are owned by big companies, they have all the leverage imo. - Michael Breslin

He's the model for the character Ari Gold on Entourage - Stephen Pickering

kill themselves by avoiding suicide? - Xenophrenia

there's the Beatles reference - Tina Chase Gillmor

iOs is the Beatles, Android is the Stones - Stephen Pickering

It's not the Gillmor Gang without the Beatles. :-) Neil Young reference coming next. ;-) - Robert Scoble

All refs. are Beatles on some level unless otherwise specified. :) - Micah

The Junior Boys (Canadian Artist) - clive boulton

Because he's an agent and his business model involves taking 10% off someone else's work, Ari Emmanuel is NOT going to be in a position to discuss where entertainment ought to go -- it's one of the few areas over which he has any influence. - Chris Aldrich

One of them will be around in 40 years - Stephen Pickering

http://blog.tunecore.com/2010... - Kevin Marks

Neil! - Arnie Klaus

Tina, which daughter went to the ER? Everything okay? - Francine Hardaway

In the long run, youtube will be the attack on the Cartel - Stephen Pickering

In the four years of 2006 to 2009, music purchases increased from a record starting point of 1 billion purchases to the new record point of 1.5 billion music purchases. - Kevin Marks

This doesn't mean many musicians are making money - Francine Hardaway

No way stephen, the attack on the cartel will come when a massively popular smash television-like series is released online. - Michael Breslin

All of this is a DISTRIBUTION PROBLEM at its root. Why isn't anyone discussing this aspect of the issue? - Chris Aldrich

The difference is today, a lot more smaller artists can make a living selling a few thousand records, and touring - Stephen Pickering

Francine - Naomi weird severe leg pain - Tina Chase Gillmor

Many people are making pittances - Francine Hardaway

distribution is now solved for music - Kevin Marks

The internet itself is the great distribution disruptor - Stephen Pickering

we are never going to make the huge numbers anymore ... if we use that as a comparison ... it will always come up short ... everyone wants to go back tot the 'golden age' ... it ain't gonna happen - Xenophrenia

She okay now Tina? - Francine Hardaway

Kevin: correct, and it's why piracy of _music_ is way down. - Michael Breslin

Chris: You're right. It's promotion and distribution worldwide to make the big $$$. - Alex de Soto

Neil Young. *bing!* - Micah

http://zoekeating.com/ topped Billboard and iTunes charts with self-recorded album - Kevin Marks

When you allow your product to be accessed easily at a reasonable price suddenly piracy becomes minimal. - Michael Breslin

That's because Neil Young released it at 24-bit 196K, had to be on DVD - Stephen Pickering

I ran a budget for a start up television network in July which included the startup and operation for one year providing 80 hours a week of live content. It ran at $50M versus the approximately $500M that networks like Bravo, TLC, or The Food Network were running at about 5 years ago. - Chris Aldrich

Fifty years ago musicians could not support themselves either. - Francine Hardaway

Francine - left her there. Think everything ok but don't know diagnosis yet - Tina Chase Gillmor

The Long Tail - Stephen Pickering

The record companies used to make the money. Now the bandwidth companies and Apple make the money - Francine Hardaway

Now the lawyers make the mone - Xenophrenia

money - Xenophrenia

The source makes the money. The artists doesn't - Francine Hardaway

DVRs will be around for a while. - Alex de Soto

Same thing will go for movies, netflix started it but their play now selection is crap, when you can easily get any movie you'd want to watch at a reasonable price, nirvana! - Michael Breslin

Cloud storage costs less and more competitive than home storage? - Arnie Klaus

That's a whole other issue, Steve. You have to order it off a TV informercial llike the music of WWII LOL - Francine Hardaway

Rust never sleeps is best scratchy - Arnie Klaus

iPad is not comfortable for reading, I find - Andrew Hazlett

Look at the history of publishing from Gutenberg: books, newspapers, radio, television... Over time it's become cheaper and cheaper for a larger audience to produce content. Networks like this one or even Leo Laporte's twit.tv have such a minimal cost that the average user will be able to run a tv station out of their home bathroom. The real difference will be the quality of the content. - Chris Aldrich

Andrew: it's comfortable enough and the one coming next year is gonna have an ultra res screen. - Robert Scoble

Getting both Andrew?! Think of the trees! - Michael Breslin

Lilly Allen, Amy Winehouse, Duffy - all MySpace launches - clive boulton

Chris: the quality of the content is going up on our bedroom nextworks. A $100 webcam is now HD. - Robert Scoble

Robert: bedroom networks? ;-) - Xenophrenia

Scoble: You have a bedroom cam? - coldbrew

no Francine, Apple gives 70% of cover price to labels. The labels don't pass it on to the artists. - Kevin Marks

sorry ... couldn't resist - Xenophrenia

coldbrew: we're all in our bedrooms. :-) - Robert Scoble

coldbrew: Gillmor Gang is actually done from a bedroom in his home. So am I. - Robert Scoble

Ah... didn't know that ratio Kevin - Francine Hardaway

Scoble: I should have guessed... - coldbrew

I am in Chelsea's kitchen - Francine Hardaway

Casey Casem (sp) cares. - Michael Breslin

Good episode this week isn't it folks - David Lloyd

@Robert: I didn't mean the quality in terms of the "technical" but rather the quality in terms of consumption... the difference in softer value between the movie Titanic and the YouTube video your cousin just shot. The desire to see either of these two is vastly different because of this perceived quality. - Chris Aldrich

(Sidebar: Just switched over to Gillmor Gang Live Stream via Android Ustream Beta - working fine). - Micah

Chris: and YouTube is catching up very quickly. I can now distribute 1080p via it and I think they are now taking 4K files. - Robert Scoble

Francine - Chelsea FC? (ur tops) - clive boulton

you can buy the liner notes on the kindle? - Kevin Marks

The problem is the upload speed. That's why I cut my shows down to 480i. - Robert Scoble

Chris, that's why I said youtube won't be the cartel killer, it's going to take a great quality television-like series to make people realize they can consume something great without having to get it from the content cartel. - Michael Breslin

Hendrix, LLC makes 100 million a year - Stephen Pickering

does the fact that 4K is around now mean there will be a whole new generation of TVs beyond 1080p? 4000p ? - David Lloyd

http://www.kqed.org/quest/ does1080p now, and uses - Kevin Marks

Yes David, though not soon. - Michael Breslin

David: eventually. But not soon. - Robert Scoble

Chelsea my daughter:-) - Francine Hardaway

The reason music quality has gone down is because the emphasis on live playing has taken a back seat to recording - Stephen Pickering

=) - clive boulton

Isn't 4000p going to be a hard sell when its taken this long to get us to 1080p TV - David Lloyd

it's more dispersed ... you don't have radio stations controlling the music people knew - Xenophrenia

David: yes. 4k will be used mostly in movie theaters for a while. - Robert Scoble

Everything is a hard sell, then scoble gets it, then everyone follows. - Michael Breslin

4000p has bandwidth issues; no time soon for streaming in US.... - Ian McGee

Who needs radio when there's Pandora! - Stephen Pickering

I'm an NPR junkie, so... - coldbrew

I dont think the US has network tv in 1080p over the air yet do they? - David Lloyd

I listen to podcasts in the car, that what I invented them for - Kevin Marks

No david. - Michael Breslin

Let's look at the books in the Library of Congress: there are millions and millions but only about one tenth of one percent has the greatest value and the highest circulation and readership. The real question is who will make and distribute the best one tenth of one percent of video entertainment in the next 10 years? Right now big media (Fox, Disney, Sony, et al.) have it. - Chris Aldrich

Me too Kevin, thanks for inventing them. - Michael Breslin

1080i yes, though 'over the air' is a bit spurious these days - Kevin Marks

here in england we get TV in 720p or 1080i only :( - David Lloyd

terristial radio in the states is horrible, 15 minutes of commericals for every 5 minutes of content, terrible content mind you - Stephen Pickering

you invented podcasts Kevin? ... - Xenophrenia

Is Apple only 27inch LED 2560-by-1440 - clive boulton

we have several NPR affiliates and community radio stations in Denver/ Metro with no commercials - coldbrew

among others, yes - I was the first to sync them to iPods... - Kevin Marks

Commonwealth Club speeches on podcast plus TWI* shows in my car. No Gillmore Gang anymore since the podcasts died... - Ian McGee

Thank you Kevin. That's how I have educated myself - Francine Hardaway

£30 ipod shuffle is perfect for me for podcasts.. I listen to them while running and the ipod weighs 11 grams - David Lloyd

http://epeus.blogspot.com/2005... Xenophrenia - Kevin Marks

Do English people jog? heheheheh - Stephen Pickering

;-) ... thank you Kevin ... - Xenophrenia

Ian: When I miss the live GG, I use youtube2mp3 or something like that, to make an mp3 of the show. - Michael Breslin

And Robert's streaming to bluetooth to radio is the death-knell for the ridiculously expensive Sirius/XM broadcast model. - Chris Aldrich

Pandora is the greatest - Stephen Pickering

I have the voice over feature enabled on my Ipod Shuffle and it has a bug so it keeps going into German language mode... - David Lloyd

Ian McGee - surprised Ustream hasn't a pod stream option - clive boulton

Wer Fahr und Fahr an die Autobahn? - Kevin Marks

MIchael -- I rarely get prepared enough to do it from home. I update Listen on my Android, so dependent on podcasts - Ian McGee

I give you Lady Gaga - Francine Hardaway

Just because its in a book with a Harvard Reference doesnt make it right :) - David Lloyd

there are so many great songs stolen from the folk music etc - Xenophrenia

Ian: Is Listen good? I have a nexus one by I normally consume audio on my ipod nano for the itunes podcast subscribing/syncing. - Michael Breslin

Does anyone remember what happened to the Iridium Satellite network when it became much cheaper to do terrestrial cellular phone based technology? Billions and billions lost... The same thing is about to happen to the so-called "big-media." - Chris Aldrich

Rolling Stones, Beatles ... all of them did it - Xenophrenia

go look on my iTunes pulse account for all the music my son has downloaded... - Kevin Marks

Youtube2mp3.... will try thx - clive boulton

Music is still made for 13 year old girls - Francine Hardaway

Listen is better than alternatives. Some bugs in forward/back scanning & occasional glitches, but serviceable enough I don't do audio books much anymore. - Ian McGee

Through what means are they receiving Disney Kids radio Steve? - Chris Aldrich

Sirius, I believe. - coldbrew

NO - Xenophrenia

Listen is OK; it has some flakiness. it nags every time you try and download on cell bandwidth - Kevin Marks

Ian: Does it remember your position when you pause/stop playing a podcast? (multiple podcasts) - Michael Breslin

16yo boys with cool haircuts making music for 13yo girls. Nothing chgs! - clive boulton

Eminem is awesome - Xenophrenia

yes michael - Kevin Marks

Yes, I love foulmouthed rap in general - Francine Hardaway

Dave winer wants a podcast listening device that does that Michael - David Lloyd

though it forgets which one you were playing - Kevin Marks

Eminem, Lady Gaga, et al. the cream will always rise to the top. - Chris Aldrich

Jaron Lanier was a visionary in the 80's, but he's sounded burned out over the last 5... - Ian McGee

Agree, Ian - Francine Hardaway

Kevin, sounds great, I'd like to move from carrying phone+nano to just phone. - Michael Breslin

The only thing I don't like about today's stars such as Eminem is they dont play any instruments - Stephen Pickering

Steve noted a lot of small musicians are struggling, but no one has a right to be a successful musician so its hard to feel bad that not everyone can be a musicial success - David Lloyd

Michael -- yes, Listen remembers where you were on multiple streams. Also on Android auto-pauses when I pull the audio cord out. - Ian McGee

David: I know I told him the nano does everything he wants and he got angry with me and others for suggesting apple. (too expensive he says) - Michael Breslin

michael look at doubletwist too - thats like itunes, except syncs over wifi as well as tether - Kevin Marks

I listen to music from all over the place: ITunes, Rdo, Pandora, etc - Francine Hardaway

Millionaire Dave Winer says the SHuffle is too expensive :) - David Lloyd

I call BS on the death of the paper book, especially for home reading - Andrew Hazlett

Stephen: yeah, if you're looking for instrumentals, Eminem ain't it. - Robert Scoble

Andrew: it's interesting that the PR industry still sends me paper. I hate it. - Robert Scoble

if you want instrumentals, try Zoe Keating - Kevin Marks

David: I know right, and since he has macs you'd think he wouldn't mind itunes. - Michael Breslin

Anyone who loves poetry loves rap. For instruments, try jazz - Francine Hardaway

who doesn't love a dusty old paperweight on their shelves... or two - David Lloyd

Barns and Noble coffee shoppe, Steve's right - clive boulton

or my son's podcast http://funnystories.blogspot.com - Kevin Marks

The secret is to live next door to the Barnes & Noble! - Chris Aldrich

Love Steve's downloading in the bookstore story. Reminds me of checking things in stores before buying on Amazon with Prime... - Ian McGee

Does B&N have comfortable chairs? - Michael Breslin

The money is in the coffee and pastries anyway - Ian McGee

B&N has at least 3 comfy chairs - clive boulton

I wish someone would explain the Level 3 story clearly, its a really confusing story - David Lloyd

Comcast is definitely the bad guy. They are an unearned monopoly - Stephen Pickering

Will bookstores eventually make all their money off of coffee and muffins the same way movie theaters stay in business by selling popcorn? (movies = books) - Chris Aldrich

Lloyd: Couldn't do it well without spamming this thread. - coldbrew

Andrew: Comcast = NBC Universal = Content = Threatened by netflix. - Michael Breslin

L3 is Netflix ISP - clive boulton

:D - David Lloyd

movies don't always stay on streaming .. - Xenophrenia

The netflix play it now selection is crap, I said that before. - Michael Breslin

Bingo Robert... - Ian McGee

But that's what people want to watch kevin! not the old stuff! - Michael Breslin

There's something to be said for the zeitgeist for our daily watercooler discussions. - Chris Aldrich

watch the Man in the White Suit - Kevin Marks

Glee is very social - Ian McGee

New = exciting! - Michael Breslin

I want to watch the original Tron - Kevin Marks

Then netflix is for you. - Michael Breslin

I've had plenty of my streaming list go away - Xenophrenia

My kids love Glee. Me too - Tina Chase Gillmor

Glee isn't on streaming - Kevin Marks

I'd watch old sereis of glee to catch up - Kevin Marks

Tina, my 15-year old daughter is *very* into it, as are her friends. And it's very real-time with texting & conversations at school, etc. - Ian McGee

A few is more than you can get right now Steve, which is NONE. - Michael Breslin

I go see live theatre instead (yes I am an anomaly, but so is scoble) - Kevin Marks

Isn't glee on network tv? Free OTA? - coldbrew

the super big screen of a theatre...can't replicate at home - dan farber

Related, I missed one recently and watched it on Hulu. Almost unwatchable with the ads and streaming problems... - Ian McGee

this has been one of the best Gillmor Gang's ever - David Lloyd

first time I've cared about every subject :D - David Lloyd

Right Dan. I go to the theatre because I love the big screen - Francine Hardaway

And the change of venue - Francine Hardaway

I like theaters with cabaret tables and beer for sale. - coldbrew

So we should be beholden to Apple's control? - Xenophrenia

Isn't everyone having an app just meant to supplement the revenue made from the album? - Michael Breslin

What about the psychological difference? It's always much more fun (and funnier) to see a great comedy movie in a packed movie house than to watch it by oneself. Or to see Neil in concert live with 100,000 others than to listen alone on an .mp3 player. - Chris Aldrich

Neil Young was right, analog audio much superior, but Neil recorded this in 24-bit, 196k sample rate which is getting closer - Stephen Pickering

I mean tehatre with actors, not cinema - Kevin Marks

Now I can make some extra money for selling a 5$ ipod app along with my album. - Michael Breslin

Stephen: actually Neil records most things in analog. Costs $6000 per hour of tape. - Robert Scoble

coldbrew: seconded...theaters with cabaret tables and beer - clive boulton

Jimmy Stewart's one great regret was that he never did as much live theater as Henry Fonda did... there's something more visceral about the intimacy and closeness of an audience. - Chris Aldrich

Chris: Subjective, I don't like to leave the house, and the more people, the less likely I'm apt to go. :) - Michael Breslin

Ah, Robert, interesting, then I heard he released it in 24 bit 196 as oppossed to most CD quality of 16/44 - Stephen Pickering

Chris, with a good crowd it's great. But so many times it's people thinking they're still in their living room, chatting, repeating lines, talking on phones... Maybe I'm getting old. - Ian McGee

@Michael, some of that problem with more people is that movie theaters aren't designed like they used to be where they anticipated massive crowds and had bigger houses and lobbies as a result. These days your local 30-plex has a much more caged feel cutting down on the overall quality of the "going out" experience. - Chris Aldrich

YouTube on the TV is a good thing, and it makes sense for that - Kevin Marks

Isn't that chasing your tail? You need the audience to get the cartels but you can't get the audience because you don't have access to the content from the cartels? - Michael Breslin

The app I use to view Youtube on my TV pulls down the MP4 file directly and look much cleaner than the FLV you normally see. - David Lloyd

John's camera is in MySpace angle mode... - Kevin Marks

What a fast paced chat. How fab - Tina Chase Gillmor

Well the APple TV has a small Flash hard drive for caching only - David Lloyd

4GB i think. - David Lloyd

@Tina, just imagine what it would look like if there was an audience of 100,000 of us interacting... how would we scale this for a bigger group? - Chris Aldrich

Anyone received free GoogleTV from I/O? - clive boulton

when we were on TWiT network things moved too fast at times - David Lloyd

I was bugged by Amazon's turning off WikiLeaks.... - Ian McGee

Chris: it would be crappy. - Robert Scoble

Chris: I had a party this week and 80 people rocked. More doesn't. - Robert Scoble

Have you noticed the debate is not what the documents revealed, but how they were aqquired? - David Lloyd

So,, we'd hav to "bless" 80 people to be in main chat and then everyone else would have to be somewhere else. - Robert Scoble

Or you'd have to have a field of dedicated producers/filters to weed out the lower "quality" discussion for the benefit of the masses... - Chris Aldrich

The other people would get to watch the stream but not contribute. How non-internetish - Francine Hardaway

We are not talking about the contents of the leaks, but if Amazon was right to kick em off. - David Lloyd

Ari Emanuel was the best preso at Web2Summit - Francine Hardaway

David, there are starting to be proper stories about the contents. First had to hear from everyone that hadn't read them about why it was a non-story. - Ian McGee

Francine: yes, but the chat rooms always suck when they get too many people in them. - Robert Scoble

Television need an open API! Who is working on that?! - Chris Aldrich

Why does nothing run as smoothly as FriendFeed? Not even FB does - Stephen Pickering

Flash burns the CPU / battery. As does HD Video. It should be my choice if I want to use apps which burn my battery, apple shouldn't forbid me. - David Lloyd

chris you'd scale by segmenting by friends - twitter model - Kevin Marks

weekend nights the Uk heckles xfactor ontwitter - Kevin Marks

Stephen: FriendFeed is done by programming geniouses. :-) - Robert Scoble

Or promotion a la stackoverflow - Ian McGee

AppleTV rules! - Francine Hardaway

@Robert, but didn't most of those geniuses go to FB? ;) - Chris Aldrich

friendfeed is on facebook infrastructure with a fraction fo the users - Kevin Marks

X Factor.. 1/3 of the country watches it. The rest of us who don't have to hear about it :) - David Lloyd

Right. That's why I don't have Google TV. don't need it - Francine Hardaway

Oh noes! - Francine Hardaway

Says the AOL guy.... - Ian McGee

http://techcrunch.com/2010... - Kevin Marks

Ouch. - David Lloyd

Stop leaving in the middle of shows its very unprofessional.. - David Lloyd

Chat audience doesn't work well past Dunbar number (150) - clive boulton

Andrew likes to make waves - Francine Hardaway

@Andrew would you prefer oligopolists? - Chris Aldrich

The problem is the last mile connectivity - Stephen Pickering

he basically wants them to name a price and have streaming movies on premier night - David Lloyd

if level 3 want to mess with comcast, they'll set up a free disk backup service for comcast customers so the upstream bandwidth matches the downstream, so it counts as peering - Kevin Marks

Pay per view like Tyson fight ($50) - clive boulton

Look at the breakup of Hollywood in 1948 preventing vertical integration... where is the modern day equivalent? - Chris Aldrich

exactly Chris- we need structural separation, which is how other countries do it - Kevin Marks

Netflix: name your price! - David Lloyd

I love the theatrical experience, but I can't always go to a movie - Francine Hardaway

hehehe ... he's a dreamer isn't he? - Xenophrenia

Well said, Kevin. Lets soak Comcast upstream (bittorrent) - clive boulton

@Kevin, I agree, but sadly when you look at other countries, none of them dominate world media the way that the US does. (The nice side benefit though is the maintenance of individual cultures...) - Chris Aldrich

ahh the cinema, home of a gallon of pop for £4.50 and a bucket full of pop corn for another fiver :D - David Lloyd

good show, thanks. - coldbrew

so books hops and cinemas become food sales environments - Kevin Marks

good show xx - David Lloyd

That was fun! Thanks for joining us. - Robert Scoble

luv #GG - clive boulton

cya next week and on twitter - David Lloyd

great show tday ... thanks guys - Xenophrenia

Excellent show folks. - Chris Aldrich

Terrific show - Francine Hardaway

Might have to watch it on a 56" TV - Francine Hardaway

Darn. Just got home and see only the last chat remarks, "Good show, " "good show." Always reminds me of the forced walk-by for kid soccer or little league, hand slap and grumbling "good game." - Amyloo

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