Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PST

hello there - Kevin Marks

Hang on Kevin. We're about to get you connected but maybe a 5 min delay - Tina Chase Gillmor

Those Facebook Video's yesterday were so cheesy! - Moe Glitz

Google+ went open earlier this week, but after what Facebook showed yesterday it may as well get closed! - Moe Glitz

when will the show start? - nchenga

shortly. - Robert Scoble

Sorry for the problems, they are my fault. I'm at Smash Summit and had some technical problems getting online. - Robert Scoble

Steve, I'm on Skype waiting for your call. - Robert Scoble

Howdy! - Nir Ben Yona

unpaid bloggers - it's because of, not with as Doc searls says - Kevin Marks

Where does this leave Google+? - Moe Glitz

Honestly, I have never seen Mark Zuckerberg being so natural, real and beautifully open! - Nir Ben Yona

And his goofy nervous laugh - Mark Vaske

Facebook is turning into the iPhone? - Moe Glitz

Moe: Google+ is Google's "bet the company" reaction to Zuckerberg's strategy. - Robert Scoble

Robert. Will be very difficult for Google to break Facebook's hold on the Social Graph - Moe Glitz

What about all of the pissed off users? I guess they'll adapt. - Alex de Soto

Moe is right, unless Google acts very very swiftly. Otherwise it becomes something else. - Mark Vaske

you can see what I read through the fb ux; I don't generally read the wapo as it's paywall is too cumbersome - Kevin Marks

Google may have to buy Twitter and morp elements of Google+ inside it, to have any chance in Social - Moe Glitz

Is this Dan's post? http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment... - Alex de Soto

thats the one Alex - Kevin Marks

the other thing, as Zuck touted endlessly yesterday, everything now just happens serendipitously. - Mark Vaske

Interesting article: http://venturebeat.com/2011... - Darren

serendipity doo dah. - Kevin Marks

Does someone have the link to Dan's post? - Tina Chase Gillmor

The alternative is to put NO data out there.. :) - Kevin Costain

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment... - Alex de Soto

Farhad Manjoo had a good point about sharing http://www.slate.com/...& - Kevin Marks

do we really want a fragmented web identity spread throughout the web, or do we want a centralized location someone can go to figure out who we are with the external apps we use, that push into facebook? - Mark Vaske

we want both - Kevin Marks

I'm seeing allot of people on Facebook with this status: Please do me a favour and move your mouse over my name here, wait for the box to load and then move your mouse over the "Subscribe" link. Then uncheck the "Comments and Likes". I would really rather that my comments on friends and families posts not be made public. Then re-post this if you don't want your every single move posted on the right side in the "Ticker Box" for everyone to see. - Kevin Costain

I'm wondering also - if there is somewhere in Facebook that we could see our own ticker? - Kevin Costain

Yep - we're are not people - we are dollar signs ... peachy - Xenophrenia

Facebook now combines all your activity in a category and shows, I like these videos or this music, even though you are using 8 different services for each. - Mark Vaske

There are many privacy issues concerning the direction that Facebook is trying to take. But to make people happily join this 'fun ride' the Zuck makes jokes with SNL buddies to sell this - Moe Glitz

do those end up accessible by the graph API? - Kevin Marks

Facebook is a homage to the almighty dollar ... and we have all lain ourselves out prone praising the loss of human by hailing the wonder of how we can be sold ... Facebook is the pimp - Xenophrenia

http://j.mp/disruptFlix was my take on this - Kevin Marks

Thats ridiculous to say. It is a service that provides a communication tool. You can see it as us all becoming narcissists but thats only if you use the tool that way. - Mark Vaske

Facebook is the pimp whoring our humanity to the advertising johns ... - Xenophrenia

The speed of the networks is what is killing DVDs. - Alex de Soto

Next gone the 2 party political system - clive boulton

I still think there's no replacement to DVD when it comes to music shows (DTS quality and that kind of stuff). - Nir Ben Yona

Marketing, marketing, marketing - Stephen Pickering

I posted to Facebook I was at Guitar Center and when I got home there were adverts for guitars on my page - Stephen Pickering

Because money is all that matters - Xenophrenia

Google does the same thing with email - Mark Vaske

It's attention.. catching attention and gaining the attention of an increasingly fragmented and busy population. - Kevin Costain

who's going to fave tide? - Kevin Marks

tide, dawn, soft soap - Mark Vaske

I feel like we are in the chapel with the dollar sign on the altar and Robert is the preacher - Xenophrenia

FB will have the brand ads and Google will keep the cash flow ads, and naturally both are growing tremendously as the media moves to the web - Stephen Pickering

Money doesn't have to have a bad connotation, if it's exchanged for actual value - Stephen Pickering

I'm a sucker for Method detergent. 4 pumps and you're done! - Alex de Soto

The ticker is genius - Mark Vaske

Stephen - that's why the actual saying it that it's the love of money that's the root of all evil - not money itself - Xenophrenia

Money is a clear driving force. As such, I think it's a moot point. If you don't like it - there must be an empty cabin somewhere in the woods of B.C. - Kevin Costain

If Facebook can get the Bank Account details of their Members then that will be a big deal - Moe Glitz

Kevin is battling a bug that wants to eat him! - Tina Chase Gillmor

money is NOT the primary motivating force for humans ... sorry ... study after study has shown that ... - Xenophrenia

But, as Leo points out Robert, Facebook is becoming increasingly complex to use and understand - Stephen Pickering

What's the Ticker? - Stephen Pickering

@Xenophrenia - I'm speaking of what's driving companies such as Facebook.. not humans in particular.. - Kevin Costain

Robert is smashed, rather at Smash. - Alex de Soto

that fly is very annoying - Kevin Marks

Facebook is apparently doing a major deal with PayPal very soon - Moe Glitz

the ticker is the new recent news system on facebook that is all encompassing and a live stream much like twitter. The homepage is now based on the top stories relevant to you filtered by close friends - Mark Vaske

Kevin Costain - then was the cabin in the woods addition to the comment? ;-) - Xenophrenia

But a Twitter only comes around once in a Career - Stephen Pickering

Kevin - get a baseball bat and whack that sucker - Tina Chase Gillmor

Moe: Will PayPal handle Facebook currency? - Alex de Soto

I should plug the bug zapper in - Kevin Marks

FB is making deals with everyone. - Phil Ashman

Alex- That could well be the case - Moe Glitz

@Xenophrenia - my edit was to correct my crappy spelling.. the cabin in the woods was the fun part of my comment.. haha... - Kevin Costain

Glam+Ning too, potentially - Kevin Marks

Tumblr's on a tear - clive boulton

The Communications Revolution is on a tear - Stephen Pickering

Wonder how Apple is taking all of this. Could their iTunes and App Store suffer? - Moe Glitz

Apple is betting on twitter as their social bus - Kevin Marks

Especially if Facebook has a payment system in place - Moe Glitz

Hi. Is there video up, or is that just my gremlin? - Hilary Talbot

WOuld anyone here invest in Pandora? Or will Spotify and iCloud defeat them? - Stephen Pickering

I don't feel that Facebook's Ticker and Timeline features are necessarily revolutionary. Both these things are ways of organizing and presenting data Facebook already has. - Kevin Costain

Very true Kevin - Moe Glitz

@Stephen - for sure, I would stay away from Pandora.. :) - Kevin Costain

It'll be interesting to watch how Netflix fare as the incumbents and content distributors continue to pull their catalogues from netflix. Just read about the possible Blockbuster/Dish streaming service. - Phil Ashman

OK, I noticed their stock getting ripped and was wondering if it was worth dipping my toe in. I enjoy the service myself - Stephen Pickering

Phil Yeah I saw that report too today on CNBC - Stephen Pickering

I think the biggest shift in FB's paradigm is the subscription vs friends. How they transition that could be very important - Mark Vaske

So will public posts on FB be searchable by Google? - Stephen Pickering

What strategy has Microsoft got. They may have a small stake in Facebook but their Roadmap is stuck in traffic - Moe Glitz

@mark - I would not be surprised to see the future Facebook allows users to create profiles that can ONLY be subscribed too in an easy way. - Kevin Costain

Funny how they ended up using the same terminology (subscribe) as Friendfeed...I wonder why.....LOL - Phil Ashman

No mention of your London trip Robert, or even iPhone 4S launch date! - Moe Glitz

@kevin friend requests now default as a subscription, and de-friending still leaves that friend as a subscriber unless explicitly blocked. So in some ways it already is a simple default model. - Mark Vaske

I like Zoë Keating's 'more than just crunchy water' worldview http://bit.ly/o3kKcS - Kevin Marks

New ways of organizing/presenting can be revolutionary. Google's pagerank was just a new way of organizing/presenting info the WWW already had. - Bruce Lewis

I never thought the venerable HP would go down like this - Stephen Pickering

@mark - indeed, i see the separation of "friend" and "subscribe" as a way for Facebook to create these sort fo Page-ish types of profiles (possibly for brands and celebrities?) that can only be followed (a la twitter). - Kevin Costain

it solves the 5000 followers only problem - Kevin Marks

@both kevins. Indeed, it could threaten twitter. Robert wrote a good article about friends and aquintences, but he didnt mention what subscribers meant and its really booming. Google+ ers are now enabling subscriptions on facebook and there is a slight shift in that direction. - Mark Vaske

Google has all the pieces to the puzzle, whereas the other players don't - Stephen Pickering

YouTube is google's ace in the hole - the hangouts/youtube integration is going to be interesting - Kevin Marks

@Stephen - I think your right. Facebook as all the eyeballs though. :) - Kevin Costain

@stephen - they have all the pieces all in separate places, un-unified. Facebook has brought much of that together with apps. - Mark Vaske

They seem unified to me in my Google account and even in mobile all your info immediately syncs over the air - Stephen Pickering

I have to run folks.. thanks for a great show. Have a wonderful weekend. - Kevin Costain

Google doesn't have Social Business. This will be a Goldmine that can swamp all forms of online advertising - Moe Glitz

@stephen but there isnt a great way to share it, unless its done manually. - Mark Vaske

Well all their products just constantly blow me away, translation, maps, Youtube now has cloud editing, they are the new "Cloud" operating system - Stephen Pickering

@ stephen - I agree, but they need to unify them. I think that is why robert has "bet his career on it, but they do need to move if they want the users. - Mark Vaske

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