GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT

Hi. Im ready to rumble. - Tina Chase Gillmor

We will start shortly. - Robert Scoble

I'm ready to crumble! - http://tcrn.ch/R7hSVU - John Taschek

everybody go easy on Steve today. He is having to direct the show. A little like walking and chewing gum at the same time - Tina Chase Gillmor

Hi - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

I am in a secret location - Tina Chase Gillmor

beautiful! - Tina Chase Gillmor

I'm the riff-raff - Keith Teare

DO NOT CRUMBLE JOHN - Tina Chase Gillmor

I told him to do the double box - Tina Chase Gillmor

Hey he's getting it! - Tina Chase Gillmor

Feels loose and irreverent already - clive boulton

Hello. - Nir Ben Yona

Always loose and irreverent - Tina Chase Gillmor

Steve you can always go to the long studio shot - Tina Chase Gillmor

Huge privacy bug with Instagram's new Photo Map http://vrge.co/Pu9Nr7 (update: fixed). - Nir Ben Yona

some lawyers might be smoking crack - Da

You all are doing great. See, I was certain that you don't really need me - Tina Chase Gillmor

I will be taking many more vacations! I love this - Tina Chase Gillmor

Steve can you bring Keith's volume up a tad? - Tina Chase Gillmor

You're still the puppet master, Tina! - Tom Guarriello

Uh oh... - Tom Guarriello

Twitter usage over time - growth but perhaps it could be more - http://pewinternet.org/Reports... - John Taschek

Thanks Tom. Nice to be appreciated - Tina Chase Gillmor

$40.85B is FB's market cap today. Apple could buy them for cash - Kevin Marks

Irony, Twitter born mobile turns more valuable than Facebook born desktop - clive boulton

Been studying media this summer, and the economics of it and I think this is a big mistake for Twitter - Francine Hardaway

Facebook will be $9 / share. 70% of the stock is still out. - Chien-Yu Lin

really weird to be JUSt a viewer and chat participant. WOW, Steve is doing just great. I knew he could do it. - Tina Chase Gillmor

The advertising biz on mobile is a mess - Francine Hardaway

The Board behind John looks like a 101 Oil Consumption Graph from the 70's - Moe Glitz

Very hard to monetize ads on mobile; drives all the CPM down to a commodity - Francine Hardaway

Mobile users don't click on ads or want them - Francine Hardaway

Desktop = users find merchants - Chien-Yu Lin

Mobile = merchants find users - Chien-Yu Lin

Twitter is facing the same problems as Facebook, trying to introduce Stream Advertising on Mobiles - Moe Glitz

Moe - we're investigating Peak Oil trends - John Taschek

Monetizing Twitter's users will not be a piece of cake - Francine Hardaway

Right Mo - Francine Hardaway

Why would Twitter become a media company when the economics of media aren't there right now? - Francine Hardaway

You guys are joking about peak oil - hopefully ... - Chien-Yu Lin

Mobile/Tablet as a controller to a web app that also runs on desktop/tv. - clive boulton

aaaah - Tina Chase Gillmor

Uh oh...watch out for those cognitive psychologists! - Tom Guarriello

Regardless of media or channel, people still make decisions in the same way. - Chien-Yu Lin

Right, Taschek!!!!!!!! - Francine Hardaway

I am not using the Facebook camera app. Forgot about it really - Tina Chase Gillmor

yes - joking about peak oil! - John Taschek

Feels like Zuck took his eye off the ball. - clive boulton

I don't use the Facebook app, my LTE VZW Nexus loads the mobile web pretty well - Da

Facebook/Mobile: What happened to RS's consistent weekly line over the past 3 months of "Wall Street guys just don't realize that Zuck is going to switch on mobile at anytime!!!!" Come on RS... don't let the stock price affect your message. Stick to your guns or just say that you have changed your mind. Otherwise all this bashing just sounds like fair-weather monday morning quarterbacking. - Johnny C

Facebook has hit the Norvig limit. - Kevin Marks

scoble is gapping for me - Kevin Marks

shocked that there's no relevant ads on Facebook on my phone - Da

@Chien-Yu Lin Shorts are gonna drive FB down ridiculous - clive boulton

Maybe it's time Facebook, Twitter, Google and the rest hire the Gillmor Gang to advise. We seem to have all the answers ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor

facebook knows not much about me compared to google - Kevin Marks

Then again they get it for free due to our excellent content... if I do say so myself - Tina Chase Gillmor

I'm an oilfield engineer and business unit manager arguing with "pro-drill" folks who think oil spontaneously form from nothing. - Chien-Yu Lin

Don't forget your Strip Clubs Robert - Moe Glitz

who's phone is ringing? - Kevin Marks

yipes. - Tina Chase Gillmor

@CliveB - The stock price and the performance have nothing to do with one another right now. On November 14, 49% of all available shares - 1.33 billion (with a B) - will be available. This is just supply / demand. I like the cards FB is holding. I just don't like it until after Thanksgiving. Not worried about Bulls & Bears. Worried about being financially trampled to death by sheep. - Chien-Yu Lin

Kevin posits Facebook doesn't enuff data to push the Norvig limit? - clive boulton

ads only suck when they're not relevant to me - Da

There's an awful lot of sheep:) - clive boulton

The creatives and the media buyers don't get mobile yet - Francine Hardaway

Mobile is about smaller sized, opportunistic / impulse transactions. The largest purchase you will ever make over the phone is an airline ticket. - Chien-Yu Lin

pinterest mobile is intersting - Kevin Marks

Scoble's right. FB's got the demo info but Google's got the behavioral history - Tom Guarriello

Da: yeah, and many ads are aimed at making you relevant to the advertising. :-) - Robert Scoble

i'm driving to walmart to buy soap, but if target offers me a better deal since they know i'm on my way to walmart to buy soap, i'll make a u-turn the other way to buy it at target - Da

@ Hardaway - I think the creatives and media folks ignore how people make decisions. - Chien-Yu Lin

Millennials are unresponsive to ads - Francine Hardaway

Francine: that's what they say. But the clothes they wear sure look like ads to me. - Robert Scoble

I realised the nexus 7 will fit in my back pocket, so I can go out without a backpack for the laptop or iPad - Kevin Marks

No Steve. I dont - Francine Hardaway

+1 Scoble's Millennials observation. - Tom Guarriello

They don't have my shows - Francine Hardaway

Or 3/4G - Francine Hardaway

Google's got the entire chain: devices, OS, browser, search, maps, profiles. Google does not care that you like hiking, Sugarland or Waffle House. They just need to know you've just made three searches for dresses - and that's all they need to push to you relevant ads. - Chien-Yu Lin

5 inch Samsung Note is even more portable, with a big screen - Da

7" iPad fits in the center control console of each car and behind the headrest of each seat. - Chien-Yu Lin

yes, Da. Not available in the US yet - Kevin Marks

What about places w/out wifi? - Francine Hardaway

kevin - the form-factor of the nexus7 is the whole issue, isn't it - Tina Chase Gillmor

I thought it was all about opt-in advertising, and possibly Pinterest -style referral ads for mobile. ie. that said.. a colleague bought an ad for desktop and mobile and the mobile ads was getting 10X the hit rate. - Michael Roberts

well, tina, I found that I used the hi-res android phones a lot. this extends that affordance just enough, but fits in pocket or purse - Kevin Marks

In the Consumption Space Amazon wins, cause every Product Search generates a buy. No need for Advertising - Moe Glitz

Right Robert. - Francine Hardaway

@ Hardaway - Why do you think Millennials are not receptive to ads? - Chien-Yu Lin

I'm carrying around the ipad all the time but it is a bit too big. Smaller really would be better for me. - Tina Chase Gillmor

I don't have a Nexus either but Kevin and Steve's experience about the difference the size makes gives me pause. - Tom Guarriello

Moe: but amazon does advertise by having people put banners on their sites for buying books. - then I get cut of the sale. - Michael Roberts

I've seen people say the same thing about the Kindle Fire or Nook too - Kevin Marks

I don't carry my iPad everywhere, either. - Tom Guarriello

Professional rif-raf. I like that - Tina Chase Gillmor

Robert -- chances we can persuade Steve / Tina to host a GG at http://www.siliconvalley-codecamp.com/ (conf call?) - clive boulton

I find typing on my Nexus 7 in Portrait-mode being a much better experience than on an iPad due to the form-factor. It's the most natural screen-typing experience I've had so far. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

Clive - I will talk to Steve about it. Can you send me some info thru twitter or email at [email protected] - Tina Chase Gillmor

Will your Nexus love still be in play Steve, when the iPad Mini is released? - Moe Glitz

So, Apple releases one with this form factor and...what happens? - Tom Guarriello

Like Moe asks... - Tom Guarriello

I'll still like the nexus, but an Apple one will be nice too - Kevin Marks

the iPad 3 screen is better. this beats the iPad 2 - Kevin Marks

What would be the difference, between the Nexus and an Apple mini iPad, Kevin? - Tom Guarriello

I think you get the tool to get access to the ecosystem.. that to me is more important than the device. - Michael Roberts

Greetings Ganglings - Rocky Barbanica

I tried to prep for the show today using only the ipad. but there were things to do on wordpress that i couldn't manage to do on the pad. I had to pull out the laptop - Tina Chase Gillmor

@ Robert: Give him the 7" iPad. Price point. Size. Babysitting potential. Apple made a smaller device by just dusting off the old Apple II playbook: good price point meant for a smaller hands audience. Come Christmas, what do kids ask Santa for? - Chien-Yu Lin

Well said Steve (re Laptops and iPad) - Keith Teare

Ganglings....ha, ha.... I like that, Rocky - Tina Chase Gillmor

I'd rather have a Surface and replace a tablet and laptop at same time - Stephen M

that's such bullshit. 'shrink your fingers' try using an iPhone with 1/3 the screen - Kevin Marks

wow, folks here have so many different devices. Most people I come across have a laptop or desktop, and a phone, and that's it. - Da

Steve's so cute.... I miss him - Tina Chase Gillmor

or one of the Lenovo tablets - Stephen M

we are weird Da. I have 6 in arms reach - Kevin Marks

Gillmor's Ganglings - 10,000 strong ... and growing - Rocky Barbanica

Nexus 7 is a good Netflix machine too. - Kevin Marks

Da - you are right. THis group is gadget-rich. Certainly most people dont have all these devises. But when the dust settles, we might not either. - Tina Chase Gillmor

Youtube is preferred method of "listening" to music for young people, ahead of CD or iTunes - Da

This show should be called the "first world problems" show :) - Stephen M

the screen on what? - Kevin Marks

@ Kevin - Still laughing at your comparison of the Nexus unit by the picture of Dr. Who and the Oog ... - Chien-Yu Lin

@Tina will email. THX - clive boulton

IS Scoble gonna lose it again ???? Cross your fingers !!! - Rocky Barbanica

My girlfriend's Galaxy S III is awesome - Da

Scoble just hasn't given the Nexus 7 and Android Widgets a chance to change his mind. On just one homescreen screen dashboard, I can replace his 3 Computer screens with Email, Next Appointment, Twitter, Facebook, Google Plus and Google Reader all showing. In one swipe to the next screen, I can be even more granular with widgets. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

Watch it, Taschek - thems fightin words - Rocky Barbanica

switch Steve - Tina Chase Gillmor

@rocmanusa - that was a compliment! - John Taschek

i can't use a phone that has a screen smaller than 4.3" - Stephen M

when an app becomes useful then it comes to Android - Da

Ok Clive... I'll look for it - Tina Chase Gillmor

Fair point Robert. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

oh no.... here he goes! - Tina Chase Gillmor

Crank Scoble up! - Tom Guarriello

heheheh ! - Rocky Barbanica

he's gonna blow... he's over due - Tina Chase Gillmor

@ Taschek - Its a First Person Shooter Spreadsheet - Chien-Yu Lin

Was that a Dremel reference - Kevin Marks

what the freak was that noise? - Tina Chase Gillmor

Mind blowing spreadsheet? isnt that an oxymoron? - Stephen M

Keith is calming RObert down....sorta too bad? - Tina Chase Gillmor

not me - Kevin Marks

No offense, but Teare is always the voice of reason. - Chien-Yu Lin

creaky chair? - Tom Guarriello

BTW- Agree that Grid was pretty nice looking, Robert. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

Leatherface is at Keith's door - Moe Glitz

RObert endorsing Ihavefiftydollars - Kevin Marks

I'm currently an iOS & iPad owner but I've recently purchased a Nexus 7 and after owning 2 previous Android phones I feel Android is finally ready for prime time. I will seriously evaluate the iPhone 5 vs. Next Google phone for the first time. Another driving factor for me is how Android is really starting to take over the TV experience. 2nd gen Google TV's like Vizio's are getting praise and there are now many sub $100 mini Android devices as well as other STB's. I've backed the Ouya and with it's gaming and XBMC / Plex I see Android gaining a foothold. Apple will need to release a new TV device to access iOS apps soon to slow this down. - Mark Krynsky

This is a good summary of developers versus popularity of Android - http://www.guardian.co.uk/technol... - John Taschek

Mark: I agree with you. For the first time I could see being an Android fanboy. That's a huge shift. - Robert Scoble

Does Microsoft have a role in the future App World - Moe Glitz

You tell 'em, Steve - - ok switch - Rocky Barbanica

If Apple succeeds as replacing the operators STB they will win. Google is taking a safer approach with Google TV being a layer on top of the operators STB's. But Android is really becoming a powerful force taking over TV's. Aero's recent court win also is great. It's becoming very interesting and hopefully things finally start to materialize. - Mark Krynsky

did anyone see that AT&T decided how they are going to handle FaceTime over Cellular? - Stephen M

LOL - Rocky Barbanica

Taschek, like Evernote? - Tom Guarriello

Readability - Tom Guarriello

Moe: yes. I'm trying to get to Microsoft on the show. - Robert Scoble

I currently use my Nexus 7 as an awesome universal remote for my Google TV with Ableremote. I'm also using Plex and GTVBox to stream content. Vizio's device is selling out during pre-orders and Ouya raised $9 Million. Android is kicking butt on the TV side. - Mark Krynsky

In the future is going HTML 5, so little need for apps - Da

noise has gona away. - Keith Teare

Amazon's Kindle Chrome Extension - http://www.fiercecio.com/techwat... - John Taschek

AT&T says to use FaceTime over Cellular you have to use their new Mobile Share plans.... you will only be able to use it over WiFi if you have an unlimited plan or an individual plan - Stephen M

Tom - it is like readability, which I also use. but it is distributed everywhere. - John Taschek

That's what Evernote does, too, John. - Tom Guarriello

It is also like Evernote -- except that it puts everything in a more accessible way. I use Evernote for the majority of my notes and use the Extension, etc. But the Kindle app puts it into a more readable Kindle format. - John Taschek

Gotcha. Will check that out. - Tom Guarriello

Here is a link to the Amazon extension on the Google store - https://chrome.google.com/webstor... - John Taschek

Thank you AT&T - Not :( - clive boulton

Tina - you guys can send participants CLEAR msgs independently ? - Rocky Barbanica

one thing about Microsoft is Windows hardware is more affordable for the masses. I broke the screen of my $200 XP netbook a couple of months ago, my Nexus is my mainstay now. I'm waiting for an affordable Win 8 laptop. - Da

Chrome browsing to the other device is nice too - Kevin Marks

Surface is natural HCI - touching the screen. If MSFT has software ready W8 will sell devices. - clive boulton

Lenovo has said they will price their Windows RT tablets for $300 - Stephen M

Chrome cross-device browsing is def nice - Tom Guarriello

Keith pull your mic out - Tina Chase Gillmor

we need to get Keith to invest in http://www.bluemic.com/ - Kevin Marks

Microsoft and Nokia are trying to announce their new Smartphone before Apple's iPhone5. But once iPhone5 is unveiled, the Microsoft/Nokia will be forgotten - Moe Glitz

Gotta be a skype feature, right? - Rocky Barbanica

rocky - not sure what you're talking about... CLEAR msg. tell me more - Tina Chase Gillmor

just make sure you turn off remote swipe - Da

Not via tricaster, I mean - Rocky Barbanica

spreadsheet on tablet is a poor fit right now. - Kevin Marks

ahhh - Tina Chase Gillmor

wordpress on tablet is a poor fit right now too - Tina Chase Gillmor

Keith isn't it also the cloud data, the device, but also the company ecosystem? ie. the apple ios ecosystem, the airplay ecosystem. to me that also is important when thinking how these devices interact. - Michael Roberts

Heard Steve tell Kevin there was a CLEAR on screen - as in Stop Talking Now - Rocky Barbanica

maybe I misunderstood - Rocky Barbanica

Side-by-side @ io12 Fire vs Nexus 7 https://plus.google.com/u... - clive boulton

Rocky: he said "clue." Which was that he had Keith up on screen. - Robert Scoble

ahhhh - my bad - Rocky Barbanica

No not a "Clear" he said there was a "hint" meaning he put Johns face on the screen - Tina Chase Gillmor

got all excited about a feature like that - Rocky Barbanica

right "clue" not "hint" not "clear" - Tina Chase Gillmor

maybe we should talk to Newtek... or skype, Rocky - Tina Chase Gillmor

Switch please - Tina Chase Gillmor

Tina FTW - Tom Guarriello

Enterprise? Client Server 1.0 era - dumb server, smart pc. App Cloud 2.0 era - social cloud, powerful device (Client Server 0 era dumb server, dumb terminal ) - clive boulton

right. then isn't this just as important as the cloud... ie. something like an IPAD can connect to apple TV. - Michael Roberts

Michael Roberts - Yes, I agree - Keith Teare

indeed - Rocky Barbanica

our TV at home is connected to an xbox - Da

I am covering my ears so as not to hear all the cool new Tricaster features that I can't use because I DON'T HAVE IT - Tina Chase Gillmor

seems simple enough - just attach a pipe or socket to each transport - small overhead I'd bet - Rocky Barbanica

Airplay functionality is coming for Google TV :) http://gigaom.com/video... - Mark Krynsky

I'm very interest in the XBOX 360 and SmartGlass for Surface app - Stephen M

geez this is hard to sit back and not be able to make the switches.... ughhhhhh - Tina Chase Gillmor

There's also currently an Android app that mimics Airplay functionality. I'll need to try this soon. https://play.google.com/store... - Mark Krynsky

Google can potentially do this -- General Instruments was a leader in set tops, was acquired by Motorola, which became Mobility and now owned by Google. - John Taschek

Whether Google does this or not is questionable. - John Taschek

I want the opposie of that Mark, send form android to appletv - Kevin Marks

Cablevision already has DVR in the Cloud: http://www.pcmag.com/article... and it was ruled legal - Stephen M

the problem with Apple TV is you need you buy Apple TV. I just want airplay code in all TV devices. - Michael Roberts

LOL - hey - would you mind if I shadowed you guys Friday after next ? - Rocky Barbanica

My Boxee box supports Airplay. So I can send content from iPhone or iPad to it. - Mark Krynsky

Tina - Steve, that is - Rocky Barbanica

Michael: that will never happen. Apple is too controlling and TV manufacturers are too unwilling to license anything from Apple. Also, they are too clueless to implement it well. - Robert Scoble

De-carteling is in the zone of this very interesting article http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2012... - Tom Guarriello

Did I miss the Twitter discussion? - Nick Halstead

https://play.google.com/store..... - Kevin Marks

Kevin, what do you use your Apple TV for? Just wondering if a Google TV, Boxee, or upcoming Android STB is a better option. - Mark Krynsky

NFL rights are held by directv - Stephen M

Hi Mark, Kevin, Scoble, Rocky :) - Nick Halstead

we had twitter discussion at top of the show, nick - Kevin Marks

Hi Nick! - Robert Scoble

NFL is the key, like Steven M says - Tom Guarriello

Hey Nick! Nice to see you. - Mark Krynsky

Apple has to pay dividend with their cash first - Da

damn - oh well, had to go get baby milk for baby - so missed it - Nick Halstead

Mark I have a Nexus Q too, and 2 appleTVs - Kevin Marks

Hands-on trumps classroom every time - Rocky Barbanica

Robert, am in town for next 2 weeks, would love to pop over one evening with Family - Nick Halstead

Robert: For sure I agree. and this is why I agree with Gillmor about notifications and why its so important as a kinda new type of RSS that can push content out regardless of the device. - Michael Roberts

NICK ! - Rocky Barbanica

Lucas appears on the GG! - Tom Guarriello

ROCKY! :) - Nick Halstead

Nick: let's talk this weekend. +1-425-205-1921 - Robert Scoble

Google and microsoft already have the bruises from trying to work with the cable companies..how can Apple avoid that? - Stephen M

I have MLB on Apple TV but can't cut because of NFL - Tom Guarriello

Robert, sure, will give you a call. - Nick Halstead

Yeah but they dropped The Who until everyone went to bed - NBC SUCKS - Rocky Barbanica

Kevin, what was conclusion of Twitter discussion? - Nick Halstead

NBC's prime-time viewership average for the week was 26.06 million (15.1 rating, 25 share), with CBS a distant second place with 4.12 million (2.8 rating, 5 share), followed by Univision with 3.76 million (1.3 rating, 3 share), ABC with 3.04 million (2.0 rating, 3 share), Fox with 2.24 million (1.4 rating, 2 share), ION Television with 920,000 (0.7 rating, 1 share), and CW with 600,000 (0.4 rating, 1 share). - John Taschek

Kevin, this could make the Q very useful http://www.engadget.com/2012... - Mark Krynsky

ya - audio #FAIL - Rocky Barbanica

Just yesterday I was talking to an "average" person who said she didn't get her friend's message (it was sent by email). She told them to Facebook her next time. I asked her why. She said she gets the facebook "pushed" at her ( although she didn't use that term). She then said she just didn't have time for email when Facebooking was much easier. She is a 35 yr old student and mom - Tina Chase Gillmor

BBC Coverage of closing ceremony was on the Web (in UK) :) - Nick Halstead

I setup a proxy back to UK (as I was in SF during it) and coverage was awesome :) - Nick Halstead

I watched it via iPlayer and Tunnelbear, nick - Kevin Marks

Maybe Apple should buy the rights to the next Olympics and compete with NBC. NBC can buy access from apple to stream it. Then Apple can show how to broadcast the Olympics. - Michael Roberts

Yeah, BBC was a lot better. - Robert Scoble

Kevin, yeah - worked really well. (I have a Amazon S3 tunnel I use.) - Nick Halstead

Maybe Apple should just buy NBC. :-) - Robert Scoble

Kevin (EC2 I mean) - Nick Halstead

I didn't see a problem with the coverge NBC had - Stephen M

VPN to the BBC and you can still see the entire Closing Ceremonies - Tom Guarriello

Google should buy the Olympic broadcasting rights - Da

They removed the german diver's PERFECT ZERO too - - Rocky Barbanica

NBC streamed the closing ceremonies LIVE online - Stephen M

want that diver's speedoes? here's the link to buy it - Da

time to wrap Steve - Tina Chase Gillmor

Robert, well yes.. rather than trying to buy in.. get become one of them, but done better. like the iphone.. when they got into the phone market. - Michael Roberts

If you can receive the BBC iPlayer in the States, they are showing the complete Closing Ceremony online - Moe Glitz

#NBCFail Fails: Less Than 0.5% of the 150 Million Olympic Related Tweets Included Hashtag http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012... - Stephen M

POT KETTLE, Robert - Rocky Barbanica

the power of this GG community is tremendous. Even though I am so intimately involved with the show I can feel that so completely - Tina Chase Gillmor

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs... says they got 12m online viewers - Kevin Marks

someone give Steve the "wrap it up" hand sign - Tina Chase Gillmor

Tunnelbear is your friend Moe - Kevin Marks

i actually preferred when microsoft was incharge of the olympics streaming.. they allowed u to start a match over from the beginning, even if u started watching in the middle - Stephen M

So you guys talked Twitter API. Did you also talk App.net earlier? I got on late. Trying to see if I should catch the recorded version :) - Mark Krynsky

Great switching Steve.... really good - Tina Chase Gillmor

@mark - thats what I wanted to know :) - Nick Halstead

Tina is "especially those who weren't here" today - Kevin Marks

Twitter API was about the first 20 minutes. - Chien-Yu Lin

down the tunnel - Jerome Hughes

Awesome close, Steve! heheh - good show, man ! - Rocky Barbanica

So much anger towards Twitter API and many don't feel that app.net is a solution. I'm curious to hear what those that have that sentiment propose. - Mark Krynsky

The guy who ran the BBC stream was on Frame Rate here http://twit.tv/show... - Tom Guarriello

thanks, Tina, you're the best! - Da

<crickets> - Mark Krynsky

Buy a VPN Tunnel from UKProxyserver.com and you can do all of this using BBC iPlayer. About 100 a year for unlimited use - Keith Teare

Bye everyone.... just the best - Tina Chase Gillmor

Keith, Tunnelbear is $50/year or $5/month - Kevin Marks

Maybe Apple should buy Comcast, so Apple can have access to NBC. Hmmm.... Funny thing is, having worked for the cable companies, and as one of the guys who worked for Dynamac, the first Apple laptop, I've seen a number of Apple failures. But something about "now" feels different -- as if Comcast et al. would be willing to grant Apple MFN access to their ecosystem, enabling subscribers to get unfettered access to video and data over their tablets and other handheld devices (but NOT Apple TV). - Brian Hayashi

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